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To: Thomas A Watson who wrote (47536)12/15/2004 9:24:40 PM
From: IQBAL LATIF  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 50167
 
This is very interesting, Gore concerns..And when a student asked Gore for a catchphrase to describe the people obstructing the work against global warming, Gore fired back: “Republicans.”

AL GORE: ENVIRONMENTAL HOMECOMING QUEEN Al Gore's at Harvard, showing eager students PowerPoint slides of impending global catastrophe -- and they're loving it. From the Crimson:



The former vice president zipped through a succession of slides reviewing the threat of climate change and outlined several possible solutions. In one nightmare scenario, sea level would rise more than 18 feet, submerging large swaths of Florida, New Orleans and Manhattan.

And when Gore showed pictures of the disappearing Larsen ice shelf in Antarctica, there were a few gasps and whistles from the audience.

"Are we serious about stopping this kind of thing or is it only the terrorists we're worried about?" Gore said.

This panel on the environment was something of a homecoming for Gore, who first became interested in environmental issues as an undergraduate at Harvard, while studying with professor Roger Revelle.
Posted by Donald Luskin at 8:43 AM | link

Gore Warns of Global ‘Crisis’

By REED B. RAYMAN
Contributing Writer


CRIMSON/ STEPHEN P. BAGG JR.
Former Vice President Al Gore ’69, left, speaks at at a panel on climate change yesterday afternoon in Sanders Theatre as Butler Professor of Environmental Studies Michael B. McElroy looks on.





Former Vice President Al Gore ’69 called the threat of global warming an impending “crisis” and derided the Bush administration’s polices on climate change as part of a star-studded panel that packed 1,200 into Sanders Theatre last night.
The panel also featured University President Lawrence H. Summers and Butler Professor of Environment Studies Michael B. McElroy in a multi-disciplinary approach to climate change.

During his time in Washington, Gore made a name for himself mastering the details of environmental issues and policies.

“Worldwide temperatures have been going up steadily, and sea levels have been rising as well,” Gore said at yesterday’s panel, backed by a PowerPoint presentation. “This is extremely serious.”

The former vice president zipped through a succession of slides reviewing the threat of climate change and outlined several possible solutions. In one nightmare scenario, sea level would rise more than 18 feet, submerging large swaths of Florida, New Orleans and Manhattan.

And when Gore showed pictures of the disappearing Larsen ice shelf in Antarctica, there were a few gasps and whistles from the audience.

“Are we serious about stopping this kind of thing or is it only the terrorists we’re worried about?” Gore said.

This panel on the environment was something of a homecoming for Gore, who first became interested in environmental issues as an undergraduate at Harvard, while studying with professor Roger Revelle.

He criticized the Bush administration’s inaction in the face of global warming, and even dipped into his bag of jokes to taunt the man who beat him out for the presidency in 2000.

He recalled a time in the sixth grade when a classmate pointed to the east coast of South America and the west coast of Africa and asked if they had ever fit together. The teacher said that was not the case.

“The student went on to become a drug addict,” he joked. “And the teacher went on to become a scientist in the Bush administration.”

The panel discussion, titled “Climate Change: The Way Forward” and moderated by Daniel P. Schrag, director of the Harvard University Center for the Environment, comes only weeks after Russia ratified the Kyoto Protocol and a month after the release of a significant scientific report warning about the effects of global warming on the Arctic.

In his remarks on the subject, McElroy, a leading scientist in the study of climate change, said that the Kyoto Protocol was an ineffective solution to the threat of global warming. He said that even the countries who agreed to the treaty have not been able to meet the reduced levels of greenhouse emissions. “Despite the rhetoric, we’re not doing a very good job in Europe or in other countries to meet the challenge,” he said.

The third panelist was Summers, who as chief economist of the World Bank signed his name to an infamous memo encouraging developed countries to export polluting industries to the third world. But more than a decade later, the University president was steadfast in calling for a solution to the problem of greenhouse gas emissions.

He pointed out that the College had established the Harvard Green Fund, which lends money at zero interest to any school interested in improving its energy efficiency.

“As a consequence of the Green Fund, there have been some 20 or more projects that have come to fruition. We’ve seen an average rate of return of close to 40 percent—that’s even better than the endowment,” he said. “And today I am pleased to announce that we are doubling the size of that fund.”

But in a question and answer session, Summers was forced to defend his position as an economist, which some saw as favoring economic development at the cost of economic reform. “There’s a reason I wasn’t in a big hurry to be on this panel,” Summers joked.

Students also questioned the administration’s resistance to the Undergraduate Council wind power referendum, which passed last week in the council elections.

“Harvard is committed to efficient and sustainable energy, and will invest in this on a substantial scale, but we don’t believe that it is appropriate to use an optional check-off fee as a mechanism for supporting those investments,” Summers said.

But while the panelists took the subject seriously, the talk had its light points.

During the question and answer session, Maya E. Frommer ’07 asked Summers if he thought it would be economically feasible to pass the restrictions on greenhouse emissions.

“Perhaps I should defer that question to someone who’s received over 60 million votes,” he joked, turning the question over to Gore, who himself couldn’t help but laugh.

And when a student asked Gore for a catchphrase to describe the people obstructing the work against global warming, Gore fired back: “Republicans.”

But Gore said that climate change must be taken seriously. “We have to take care of this, and we have to keep our eyes on the prize.”



To: Thomas A Watson who wrote (47536)12/15/2004 9:26:57 PM
From: IQBAL LATIF  Respond to of 50167
 
A FAITHLESS ELECTOR? OR JUST BRAINLESS? <Or as John Edwards would say, there are two Americas. LOL....>

A FAITHLESS ELECTOR? OR JUST BRAINLESS? Was it a protest against John Kerry's incompetent campaign? Or did a Minnesota elector just not know the difference between the two Democratic Johns when he cast his ballot today for John Edwards? Either way, this is a fitting end to Kerry's presidential aspirations. Thanks to reader Jill Olson for the link.

Vote for Edwards instead of Kerry shocks Minnesota electors

Dane Smith, Star Tribune
December 14, 2004 ELECTORAL1214


Voting irregularities were few in Minnesota this year -- until it really counted.

Defeated Democratic presidential candidate John Kerry likely is going to get one less electoral vote nationally than he should have -- 251 instead of 252 -- because of an apparent mistake Monday by one of Minnesota's 10 DFL electors.

One of the 10 handwritten ballots cast for president carried the name of vice presidential candidate John Edwards (actually spelled "Ewards" on the ballot) rather than Kerry.

"I was shocked ... this will go in the history books," said Secretary of State Mary Kiffmeyer, who presided over a ceremony that normally is uneventful.

Kiffmeyer said she was unaware of any other such apparent mistake in Minnesota, although there have been cases in other states of "faithless electors" casting ballots for candidates other than those to which they were committed.

Electoral voting in MinnesotaRichard SennottStar TribuneThere was stunned silence after the announcement that Edwards had gotten a vote for president, but none of the 10 electors volunteered that they voted for Edwards as a protest, nor did anyone step forward to admit an error.

"It was perhaps a senior moment," said elector Michael Meuers, 60, a Bemidji marketing consultant for a health care firm, the second-youngest member of the Minnesota delegation to the Electoral College.

Meuers said he was certain that the Edwards ballot wasn't his, but he noted that "both the candidates were named John, and the ballots looked pretty much alike."

This year's DFL Party electors were typical -- senior party activists typically chosen for their long years of service. They ranged in age from 52 to 83.

"These are not paid political professionals," said Bill Amberg, the DFL Party's communications director. "It was clear that everybody thought they had voted for Kerry, and all 10 of these folks were for Kerry during the pre-nomination period. There is no sign of protest."

Kiffmeyer, a Republican and the state's chief election official, said that there apparently is nothing that can be done once the secret ballots are cast.

"It's not that important, since we're not at a 269-to-269 tie in the electoral vote," said DFL Party Chair Mike Erlandson. "This isn't the biggest story in America today. It's the recount in Ohio [the crucial battleground state that helped carry the nation for President Bush] and the questions that so many people have over voting machines."

Minnesota's electors typically cast their votes in the Governor's Reception Room at the State Capitol, and Republican Gov. Tim Pawlenty and Kiffmeyer appeared with them in the morning to thank them for their services.

Several of them acknowledged that their duty was perhaps an archaic formality but that it was nevertheless a significant and solemn step in the process.

"It's the symbolism of it, the fact that I am now representing the entire 4th Congressional District and the will of its majority," said elector Matthew Little of Maplewood, an 83-year-old activist and a longtime Minnesota civil rights leader.

Little, born and reared in North Carolina, came to Minnesota in 1948, the year Minneapolis Mayor Hubert Humphrey, then running for the U.S. Senate, delivered a historic civil rights speech at the Democratic National Convention in Philadelphia. Little later became the top official of the Minnesota NAACP.

Although the electors expressed regret that Kerry did not win nationally, most of them also said they took pleasure in casting the votes that keep Minnesota in the Democratic column for the eighth straight presidential election, the longest Democratic streak of any state.