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To: Grainne who wrote (91506)	12/15/2004 6:01:05 PM
From: Bill	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 108807

You haven't presented any proof whatsoever that OBL was a CIA operative. Just the vacant speculations of liberal conspiracy theorists. Look, citing hundreds or thousands of repetitions of the same recycled conspiracy theory doesn't make the theory true.

To: Grainne who wrote (91506)	12/15/2004 6:22:09 PM
From: Oeconomicus	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 108807

LOL. The hypocrisy, condescension and, dare I say, fascistic tendencies verily drip from your post. Rebut this, oh master of the nearly-subtle slight, if you are capable of forming cogent arguments without lapsing into condescension and such as before: siliconinvestor.com Oh, and if "there is a wealth of data ... the world over about Osama's career [as] a CIA operative", feel free to post a sample of that, too. That would be a more "feelie-ish" response to JLA's assertion that Osama never was one than your insulting post and argumentum ad populum "proof" that he was.

To: Grainne who wrote (91506)	12/15/2004 6:28:00 PM
From: epicure	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 108807

"which is morally bankrupt at this point because of everything that the Bush administration is doing" Honestly, I don't think they are morally bankrupt- they are operating on a completely different moral footing. If you accept the premises they accept then many of the conclusions they come to follow. I don't think the awful behavior has to follow- since few positions really requires one to defend one's position with name calling and vilification and fallacies and just plain nastiness. But if you can get past the bad behavior, and the fact that your premises (and mine) are completely different from theirs, and that we evaluate the world in a totally different way, and value different things in the world, then I think you might be able to see that they are operating on a different track, morality-wise, than we are. I don't like their track, because I don't like how they get where they get, and where they are going, but it IS a morality- just as much as the radical Jihadists have a morality- it's just one I don't like, and it's REALLY different from mine. I think you would agree with me that the Jihadists are operating under the principles of a morality system (albeit one that is dangerous to everyone else)- if you can accept that they have a morality, I think you can probably accept that the people of the far right have one too. Right? :-) And no- I'm not saying the far right are the same as Jihadists.