Silicon Investor (SI) -- The First Internet Community

STOCKTALK

We've detected that you're using an ad content blocking browser plug-in or feature. Ads provide a critical source of revenue to the continued operation of Silicon Investor. We ask that you disable ad blocking while on Silicon Investor in the best interests of our community. If you are not using an ad blocker but are still receiving this message, make sure your browser's tracking protection is set to the 'standard' level.

Pastimes : Let's Talk About Our Feelings!!! -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Brumar89 who wrote (91676)	12/17/2004 10:39:04 PM
From: Grainne	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 108807

I'm not sure what was a crime during World War II. The information is probably readily available on the web, however. I don't understand its relevance to what is going on in Iraq right now, though. I do believe the Geneva Conventions date from just after World War II. I would suspect that symbols like the red cross for hospitals and injured soldiers, and the white flag of surrender and other symbols like that date back much further, but I don't have time to do research on that at the moment. Someone else who is interested could, of course. Speaking of war crimes, the European Council is doing an investigation of reports of torture at Guantanamo: Briton freed from Guantanamo prison tells European rights body of U.S. abuse 10:39 PM EST Dec 17 PARIS (AP) - A Briton released from the U.S. prison camp at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, told Europe's top human rights body Friday he was beaten, shackled, kept in a cramped cage and fed rotten food as part of "systematic abuse" in custody. Jamal al-Harith's testimony before a Council of Europe panel came as part of an inquiry by the body into human rights abuses at the U.S. prison camp to be made public in a report due out early next year. Reading from a 10-page statement, al-Harith described his two-year detention at Guantanamo Bay as a period of continual mistreatment that ranged from humiliation and 15-hour interrogations to physical abuse he said left scars. At one point, al-Harith said he refused to take an unidentified injection and was chained up and attacked by five men wearing helmets, body armour and shields. "They jumped on my legs and back and they kicked and punched me," said the 37-year-old website designer and father of three from Manchester, England. "Then I was put in isolation for a month." Al-Harith said he was kept mostly in a wire cage and given food marked "10 to 12 years beyond their usable date," as well as "black and rotten" fruit. Sometimes, unmuzzled dogs were brought to the cage and encouraged to bark, he said. Detained in Afghanistan in October 2001, al-Harith maintains he had travelled to the region to attend a religious retreat in Pakistan. He and three other Britons were released in March and have filed a lawsuit in a U.S. court seeking $10 million each in damages. Never charged, they maintain they were innocents caught up in the U.S. war on terrorism. They were denied access to lawyers, as are most prisoners in Guantanamo. When al-Harith and the others filed their lawsuits in October, the Pentagon denied the abuse allegations and said the men were properly held in Guantanamo after being captured in Afghanistan and having fought for al-Qaida. "The U.S. policy is to treat all detainees and to conduct interrogations, wherever they may occur, is in a manner consistent with all U.S. legal obligations," Maj. Michael Shavers, a Pentagon spokesman, said at the time. Robert Lizar, al-Harith's lawyer, urged the panel to use strong language in its report and to condemn U.S. behaviour at Guantanamo that he called "totally shocking and unacceptable from international norms." "The actions are closer to those of kidnappers and bandits, than to those of a state with a strong tradition of liberty and due process," Lizar said. Al-Harith said during long interrogations, he was given no choice but to urinate on the floor and repeatedly threatened or asked to confess to crimes he had not committed in exchange for a payoff. Interrogators threatened to seize his family's home, unless he admitted to having gone to Pakistan to buy drugs or to become involved with terrorism, al-Harith said. "On another occasion, the interrogators promised me money, a car, a house, a job if I admitted those things," he said. "I refused." During questioning, al-Harith said he was placed in shackles that prevented him from standing upright and cut into his flesh, leaving scars on his wrists and ankles. Similar abuses are detailed in a memo obtained exclusively by The Associated Press this month that suggests the U.S. Defence Department has done nothing about FBI complaints of "highly aggressive" interrogations reported as early as 2002. The memo quotes a U.S. marine telling an FBI observer some interrogations led to prisoners "curling into a fetal position on the floor and crying in pain." Kevin McNamara, who presided over Friday's hearing for the council, said the global fight against terrorism should not be used as an excuse to violate basic human rights, the right to a fair trial and the rule of law. "Hundreds of what must be presumed to be innocent people remain in indeterminate detention in Guantanamo Bay," he said. "By all accounts, the abuse continues." McNamara said the council plans to publish its report on the subject in the early months of 2005. cbc.ca