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Pastimes : Let's Talk About Our Feelings!!! -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Grainne who wrote (91731)	12/19/2004 3:06:06 AM
From: cosmicforce	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 108807

To know the genealogy of a particular morsel would put a sensible person off. Some people have forgotten the brutality that goes into food production. Surprisingly, others actually seek it out - I was expected to take up hunting as a kid. After a flash, bang and an acknowledgement of "success", the experience became one of revulsion. Don't aboriginals say prayers about it? The animal gave you quite a gift. While everyone has their own path on the great Wheel of Life, IMO that path should be one of Less Turbulence - like canoeing - effortless. Hunting an animal is not effortless and is noticeably more than work than growing a bean. The evolutionary "ideal" is probably omnivorous, through a mixed diet, widely varied. The general rule: don't repeat anything too often. But then, before agriculture, this wasn't possible. As you pointed out, there are a lot of reasons people would want to avoid meat and tend toward soy and other legume sources (However, don't get me started about lectin!). Personally, veganism was an interesting exercise. I wondered if it was safe to live on a diet like that - I called it testing PeopleChow. Nowadays, my concern regards what great apes should eat. Even soy is a "modern" invention - certainly since the dawn of agriculture - a mere geologic instant. Perhaps, we shouldn't even assume that agriculture as a technology and food choices dictated by culture are sufficiently known to be PROVEN safe! Ironically, I won't be stripping some of it from my diet. In closing, I have to disagree about other animals' experiences with milk as a food. A hunting omnivore can be guaranteed to be eating pregnant or lactating animals several times a year. IMO, it is the infrequent, but high-quality nature of this material that drove man to harvest it, much like honey drew man to it (pretty nasty if you think about that too much). The first milk was tasted by incidental killing of lactating females. Once hominids made the connection about breast tissue on prey items (or about other bodily fluids, as did the Masai), the dairy business was born from base animal husbandry. I would further offer that dairy (including blood drawing) may have arisen out of hunting and considerably pre-dates soy, a specialized monoculture technology. What is safe is probably moderation in all things, leaning toward the diet of other African apes.