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To: Peter Joseph who wrote (66735)	12/19/2004 10:33:17 AM
From: Amy J	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 77400

Good post. RE: "It is true that much of the innovation is still happening here in the U.S." Innovation is the phase of the product lifecycle that we're strong at. Unfortunately, what about the later stages, decades after it goes commodity? Simple Copy . works pretty darn well in a low-cost envirnonment, as history has shown Japan. RE: "Taiwan " There's a rather popular device in Taiwan, for a few dollars, a friend showed me that has bumped out some of the USA manufacturers. ROW loves simplicity and low-cost. RE: "Can the U.S. stop the bleeding? " Sure, but only if new RND is encouraged and invested. But with an evangelican president that's anti-science, refusing to invest into stem cell and cutting NSF funds, what else would one expect. Maybe we're suppose to simply pray harder. RE: "Probably not, given the global imbalances." Agreed, certainly not in mfg. And certainly not during the end stage of a lifecycle, when winning is all about mfg costs. Regards, Amy J

To: Peter Joseph who wrote (66735)	12/19/2004 11:29:01 AM
From: Lizzie Tudor	Respond to of 77400

heres a GREAT article on Dell/China nytimes.com Who's Afraid of China?

To: Peter Joseph who wrote (66735)	12/19/2004 11:45:15 AM
From: Lizzie Tudor	Respond to of 77400

I agree with you Peter. All I can say, is that if I were Steve Jobs I would think hard about where I built those ipods. You go to china and you are knocked off in an instant. Sure you save a few bucks on labor costs but what is that in the general scheme of the products anyway? I'm not a big globalization with China fan, esp with their manipulated currency. The good news is that I think CEOs here in the USA are finally getting that "offshoring" every creative job in the universe to asia isn't really good business. Offshore engineers are WAY overrated, imho. Just a way for CEOs to try to pound down salaries here. But try to build something really innovative or rough with an offshore model, forget it.