To: Amy J who wrote (213611 ) 12/20/2004 2:31:29 AM From: tejek Respond to of 1577918 I agree. It's also demographic dependent. The more education, the less hooked they are on it. But overall, it's horrible over there. One of my Asian friends (not a close friend, once you hear the story you'll realize why), she just went nuts over her daughter's looks. She has a lovely daughter, but all she does is criticize her looks and her weight. It's horrible the way she criticizes her - in American society it would be considered extremely inappropriate behavior for a mother to criticize her daughter's looks. I told my friend that she shouldn't impose her own lack of self-esteem onto her daughter. I told her, your daughter looks great to me, the problem is you. Yeesh. What a nasty thing for a mother to do to a daughter. But way too common in Asian culture. If she focused on health issues, rather than external looks that would be a different matter. I asked my friend if she cared about her daughter's weight because she's concerned over her health. My friend said, what health issue? She was simply concerned about her daughter's looks because she said she wouldn't find any guys to date when she gets older. Her daughter wasn't even overweight. She looked like a typical American. Granted, she had more weight than a typical Asian, but this is America and there's absolutely nothing wrong with a little bit of healthy padding, provided it's in a healthy range of normal weight - which her daughter was. I asked my friend, so if you are concerned about her weight from a health standpoint (which she wasn't), why don't you do some exercise with her yourself? : ) Amy, Chinese culture is very different from ours.....no question. Did you see the Joy Luck Club.......great movie? It really gave some insights into the Chinese American culture and the relationship between mothers and daughters. Unfortunately, women have never been prized in Chinese culture even to this day. Have you seen what they did to women's feet back in the 19th century? Small feet were prized among the upper classes of China. So they would starting binding a little girl's foot when she was small. By the time she was an adult, her foot could fit into a doll's shoe.....often it was no more than a knob at the end of her leg. They were often crippled for life. As for the US, I don't see that we are significantly different from 21st century China. In my high school, every Jewish girl had had her nose done by 12th grade. Most middle, upper middle, and upper classes consider it essential for a kid to have braces which often require some minor surgery. Girls now are getting breast augmentation before they graduate hi school. I think plastic surgery should be only for adults.......I think kids are too confused and immature to know what they want. Otherwise, the only problem I see is the need to imitate the look of a favorite star....guys wanting B. Pitt's nose and girls wanting J. Robert's smile. To me, that's very weird....wanting to be someone you're not instead of simply enhancing who you are. ted