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To: cosmicforce who wrote (91777)12/20/2004 5:32:16 PM
From: Grainne  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 108807
 
There is so much in your post that I will have to take one point at a time. I will write another post later about cows. I did some research on the web and discovered that the blood type diet, which I believe is where most of the lectin concern comes from, is controversial and, dare I say it, a fad. Now I am not saying that some people may not have problems digesting legumes--although starting out slowly and building up your tolerance gradually certainly helps, as it does when increasing the amount of fiber in general in your diet.

This article refutes the concept of the blood type diet. (I am sure there is an article which refutes this article, of course, which makes any discussion of nutrition not the final say on the subject.) I also would point out that whether ancient Africans ate a huge amount of meat is debatable. In fact, most meat eating until quite recently has been quite a thing of luck in the hunt. Most humans gathered plant materials and that was the mainstay of their diet, until the rise of agriculture and animal keeping.

I think it is important also to consider the downside of meat eating on health, which I may do later (I am unfortunately busy today) because this is an interesting debate and I am enjoying the discussion.

The Blood Type Diet: Latest Diet Scam
by
Deirdre B. Williams, N.D.
John J. McMahon, N.D.

We are naturopathic physicians. We are also vegan as are our children. The practice of naturopathy as originally described by Dr. Benedict Lust includes "the elimination of...habits such as over-eating, alcoholic drinks and...meat eating" (Joseph Pizzorno, N.D. & Michael Murray, N.D., Encyclopedia of Natural Medicine, Prima Publishing, Rocklin, CA, 1991,p.5). When we attended the John Bastyr College of Naturopathic Medicine (now Bastyr University) the work of Henry Lindlahr, M.D. was required reading. Dr. Lindlahr defined the philosophy of Nature Cure or naturopathy as favoring a "strict vegetarian diet" because of the "morbid nature" of the "alkaloids of putrefaction" which "every piece of animal flesh is saturated with" (Henry Lindlahr, M.D., Nature Cure, Nature Cure Publishing, Chicago, Illinois, 1924, p.273).

Peter D'Adamo, N.D. has recently published a popular book in which he encourages a diet based on his interpretation of the ABO blood groups and health. This blood type diet theory encourages daily consumption of animal flesh by people of blood type O and blood type B. Together these two blood types make up between 56% and 69% of population of the United States (Kickler et al in The Principles and Practice of Medicine, 22nd edition, Appleton, Norwalk, CT, 1988, p.465). Schools of naturopathic medicine have begun to include this theory in their curriculum and our colleagues often recommend a diet including daily consumption of animal flesh to vegan/vegetarian patients of blood type O or B.

The wise, health-promoting nutritional advice offered by the vegetarian doctors who defined naturopathy as well as the recent research detailing the benefits of vegan/vegetarian diet on our kind done by Pritikin & Ornish (heart), Wahlqvist and Aldercreutz (menopause), Lindahl (asthma), Barsotti (kidney disease), the Farm Collective (uncomplicated home births) and Chen, Peto et al (general health, cancer) is being ignored by naturopathic physicians who subscribe to the blood type diet theory.

We feel this is a mistake.

The foundation for the blood type diet theory is comprised of three "legs" as the author himself points out. As we read them the individual legs contain inaccuracies which render each one scientifically and logically flawed. The diet theory they support is, then, rendered invalid.

"Leg One" is the lectin hypothesis. The foods we eat contain lectins. Because of how lectins clump (or "agglutinate") other molecules they have the capacity to create health problems for human beings. Botulism toxin has a lectin, ricin, that is so deadly you would never encourage someone to consume it. On page 27 of the book explaining the blood type diet, it is stated that certain lectins "agglutinate cells in the affected blood type" as "visible under the microscope". The author assumes that this same clumping seen in office on a slide beneath a microscope occurs in the bodies of people of particular blood type, making them unwell if they don't choose their foods as recommended by the blood type diet theory. Extrapolating from results observed in a test done on a laboratory slide to effects in a human being has several disadvantages. Observed in vitro morphological changes in blood are controversial regarding their "validity and reproducibility" as well as "the most common criticism" that "the technique is susceptible to the subjective judgments of technicians and that the methods used by different labs produce widely varying results" (Stephen Barrie, N.D. in A Textbook of Natural Medicine by Joseph Pizzorno, N.D. and Michael Murray, N.D., John Bastyr College Publications, Seattle 1987, Sect II Supplemental Diagnostic Procedures, p. II:FoodAl 2).

A laboratory slide differs significantly from the environment of the intestine. This is especially important when you realize that fasting or abstinence from alcohol will alter intestinal villus morphology and brush border membrane enzymes (Can J Physiol Pharmacol, 1985 Oct, 63:10, 1312-20) and that the combination of foods chosen at a meal will alter transport properties of individual nutrients due to changes in the composition of brush membrane lipids (Diabet Res, 1991 Mar, 16:3, 127-38). These important changes in tissue, enzymes, absorption and transport at the intestinal tract will not be mirrored in a slide of blood taken from the arm or fingertip. Additionally and perhaps most importantly, in response to in vivo challenge of the gastrointestinal tract with a food, human beings produce natural antibodies to dietary lectins such as soy, wheat and peanut. These antibodies do not interfere with the agglutination properties of the lectins but they are a significant part of our immune repertoire (FEBS Lett, 1996 Nov, 397:2-3, 139-42). The in vivo protection against any potential lectin-induced damage afforded by such antibodies is not quantifiable or apparently observable by in vitro microscopic analysis of agglutination, so an investigator or technician would miss it. Analogously, if we saw a house ablaze in a section of a city with closely-packed homes without knowing there was a nearby and reliable fire department, we could erroneously assume that an entire block of homes would go up in flames. This is decidedly not the case in nearly every major metropolitan area. Similarly, conclusions drawn about the impact of soy, peanut and wheat lectins from observed agglutination on a slide without knowing the extent of the innate protection our bodies generate in response to these lectins are most likely mistaken.

"Leg Two" of the blood type theory addresses the effect of foods on each blood type with regards to their interactions with intestinal bacteria and the mucous secretions of the gut (the largest source of blood type antigens other than red blood cells). This is referred to as the "polyamine part". Polyamines are chemicals which can be measured by a urine indican test. The urine indican test, as employed by conventional labs and some natural health doctors, does reflect bacterial activity in the small and large intestines. Elevated levels of urine indicans are considered, by some natural health care doctors, to be an indicator of "intestinal toxemia" and "overgrowth of anaerobic bacteria" (Dirk Powell, N.D. in A Textbook of Natural Medicine by Joseph Pizzorno, N.D. and Michael Murray, N.D., Section II Supplemental Diagnostic Procedures, p. II :Indic-1).

The conditions which, according to Dirk Powell, N.D., are confirmed as resulting in elevated levels of urine indican are the following: "inflammatory bowel disease, celiac disease, hypochlorhydria, gastric ulcer, biliary & intestinal obstruction, jejunal diverticulosis, scleroderma, gastrectomy, Hartnup's disease, pancreatic insufficiency, diminished peristalsis and blue diaper syndrome". Urine indican is recognized as valuable for detecting intestinal integrity, absorption and protein catabolism (Jacobs et al, Laboratory Test Handbook, Mosby, St Louis, 1984, p. 589). It is possible to draw oblique conclusions about the impact of diet on colon health using the urine indican test. The blood type diet theory hypothesizes, as stated on pages 27-8 of the book, that the urine indican test "shows that a carcinogen entering your system is magnified to ninety times the effect of someone for whom it is not toxic". There is no evidence that we could find which substantiates this remark. Also, there is evidence that enzymes such as intestinal transglutaminase, secreted in response to certain lectins, repair lectin-induced damages to the microvilli and gut epithelium (Biochem Biophys Acta, 1996 Nov, 1314:1-2, 66-70). In so doing these enzymes would inhibit and occasionally eliminate the potential for the chronic intestinal inflammation, bacterial overgrowth and illness ascribed to eating "wrong" for your blood type.

"Leg Three" addresses the secretory differences with regard to digestive juices (enzymes & acids) amongst the blood types. On page XVI of the blood type book, it is explained that higher than average stomach acid levels are to be expected in people with blood type O. The tendency of this blood type to peptic ulcer of the duodenum is cited as evidence of this. The book also notes, on page XVI, that in the practice of the naturopathic doctor who first coined the blood type theory it was observed that "type O patients did well on animal products and protein diets --- foods that require more stomach acid for proper digestion". It is known that not all men and women of blood type O hypersecrete HCl, a considerable percent secrete normal levels of stomach acid and some hyposecrete stomach acid; peptic ulcer of the duodenum does not have to be coincident with excess secretion of stomach acid and the localized rather than diffuse histopathology of a peptic ulcer of the duodenum cannot be explained as due to only excess stomach acid secretion, something additional is adversely affecting the duodenal health of patients so prone (McGuigan in "Harrison's Principles of Internal Medicine" 13th edition & McKusick in "The Principles & Practice of Medicine" by Harvey, 22nd edition). Dietary strategies for type O patients as outlined by the blood type theory are intended, in large part, to treat people who hypersecrete stomach acid. As we have explained this is often not the case and such diet strategies will not be appropriate care for quite a number of people who are blood type O.

More to our focus as regards "Leg Three", stomach acid does not digest protein, pepsin does. On page 55 of the blood type diet book it is stated that "type O's can efficiently digest meats" (animal flesh)"because they tend to have high stomach acid content". Hydrochloric acid is necessary for the conversion of pepsinogen (inactive) to pepsin (active). Nonetheless it is pepsin which is responsible for protein digestion, not stomach acid. The optimum pH for pepsin's protein-digesting activity is 2.0, a gastric pH consistent with what is realized by most non-doudenal ulcer patients. When the pH of the stomach drops to below 2.0 and especially at a pH of less than 1.5 (a pH more consistent with HCl hypersecretion) pepsin becomes demonstrably less effective at digesting protein (Lehninger, Biochemistry 2nd edition, p.196). Theoretically a person who hypersecretes HCl would be less able to digest protein. Given this, a "one size fits all" diet theory lumping every blood type O person into a HCl hypersecretor/high animal protein diet will not be health promoting.

A second aspect of the "Third Leg" of the blood type diet theory involves the blood type variability in the secretion of intestinal alkaline phosphatase. Blood type O and B secrete this enzyme while its secretion is negligible in the other two blood types. The blood type diet theory contends that intestinal alkaline phosphatase is an enzyme whose primary function is to split cholesterol and long chain fatty acids. On his website, the author of the blood type theory has stated that intestinal alkaline phosphatase is "an enzyme whose sole function is to break down dietary cholesterol" (11/13/97 post at 07:17:24 by author to S. Shapiro). This is not true. In the 1960's intestinal alkaline phosphatase was believed to be involved in lipid absorption, due to its ability to hydrolyze phosphate esters. In the 1970's reports suggested a different primary function for intestinal alkaline phosphatase, namely, that it is involved in calcium absorption (Gastroenterology, March 1972 62:3, P. 452-8). Observations by the researchers Norman and Hanssler independently confirmed a two to three-fold increase in intestinal alkaline phosphatase activity after vitamin D administration coupled with a rise in calcium transport. Recently intestinal alkaline phosphatase has been shown to also play an important role in thiamin transphosphorylation (Arch Physiol Biochem, 1995 Apr, 103:1, 33-8) and the hydrolysis of FMN and FAD in addition to being involved in riboflavin transport (Int J Vitam Nutr Res, 1983, 53:1, 109-14). At the very least intestinal alkaline phosphatase is involved in much more than the function heralded by the blood type theory. The possible significance of its varying secretion re: blood type to an involvement in cholesterol metabolism is overemphasized by the blood type theory to support an unhealthy recommendation for cholesterol-laden animal proteins.

In our opinion, the blood type theory of diet doesn't have a leg to stand on.

Deirdre B. Williams, N.D.
John J. McMahon, N.D.

vegsource.com



To: cosmicforce who wrote (91777)12/20/2004 11:29:17 PM
From: Grainne  Respond to of 108807
 
I was quite busy when I answered your post this morning, cosmicforce, and I made a logical (or illogical as you may perceive it) leap that I didn't really explain. When I read your research on leptin, the right blood type diet somehow came up, with the doctor's name who wrote the book about it, and then I researched his name and came up with a lot of material. Then I wrote back to you, but of course did not explain how I had gotten where I did. The right blood type diet is kind of like the yogi diet actually, in that there are different foods for different folks. I am not sure what I think about that--there is one blood type where stomach cancer is more prevalent, and other some other diseases relate a tiny bit to certain blood types. Where I guess I disagree is in this doctor's assertion that primitive Africans ate a lot of meat, and therefore present day people with the same blood type should, as well. There is no evidence that they ate much meat, as I believe you acknowledged in your return post. Also, there are huge detriments to eating much meat in addition to the environmental degradation, as you also said.

So, now on to cows. I do think it is possible that at some point there have been a few happy cows. Those Hindus need some cow birth control, though, don't they? Too many cows to take care of.

Anyway, dairy cows in America lead mostly horrible, short lives before their milk production gives out and they become hamburger. While it is true that on organic farms they have more room to move around and better feed, their calves are still taken away from them within 24 hours of birth, and the male calves are still sold for veal. Cows are naturally sociable herd animals with varying personalities and temperments, and they are good mammal mothers who love their calves. So I would argue that no dairy cows in America are treated well. I did read that in some more primitive cultures with dairy cows, the farmers would allow the calves to stay with their mothers and drink at least some of her milk. Not now.

Cattle have been a part of American identity since the days of the Old West. With all the advertisements for the milk industry in the past couple of decades, dairy cows in particular have gotten a great reputation as wholesome, lovable farm animals -- which they are, when treated right. Cows (female cattle) have nine-month pregnancies like humans, and they nurse their calves around 16 times a day until the calves are around 7 months to a year old. They stay very close with their offspring even after they stop nursing, and they become very distressed if they are separated. Cattle live in large herds (as many as 300 animals), and within each herd the cows and bulls babysit for one another's calves so they can take turns grazing. They are herbivores, and they generally only eat grass and vegetables. Cattle are ruminants, which means their stomachs are divided into four compartments and part of their digestive process involves regurgitating and chewing their partially digested food, which is called cud. Cattle generally chew their cud for around eight hours each day. They can live for 20 years or more.

On a dairy factory, cows have little contact with the loving farmers you see in cheese commercials. They are fed, watered, and milked by machines, and are not allowed to graze in grassy pastures. Instead they are confined to indoor stalls or grassless pens, injected with rBGH (recombinant Bovine Growth Hormone), and fed a steady diet of grain and animal byproducts, both of which are unnatural and difficult for the cows to digest.

Starting when they are about a year and a half old, the cows are impregnated constantly -- this is because in order to produce milk, like all mammals, cows must first give birth. So the cycle begins: the cow is impregnated and gives birth. Her calf is taken away just a day or two after it is born. Because of the rBGH, she produces as much as ten times as much milk as her calf would have needed, all of which is instead taken for humans to drink. Other health effects of rBGH include chronic mastitis (an infection linked to overproduction of milk, which causes her udder to become swollen and very painful) and hoof irritation. About two to three months after she gives birth, the cow is impregnated again. She has a break of just a few weeks between when she stops lactating (producing milk) and when she gives birth and starts the cycle all over again. After completing this cycle just two or three times, the cow's body can no longer keep up with the intensive milk production caused by the hormones, and she is sent to slaughter. Meat from the exhausted dairy cattle is considered very low quality, and is most often ground up and sold as hamburger meat.

Since dairy cows produce so many calves, there is a steady supply of very young cattle for the veal industry. Veal calves are taken from their mothers within the first two days after birth, sometimes even before they are able to walk on their own. "Milk-fed" veal, which is considered desirable by many people because of its white color, actually comes from calves that are fed a milk substitute that lacks iron. Iron is an important mineral in the diets of many animals including humans, and without it the animals become very weak. The calves are kept in tiny crates that don't allow them to exercise at all -- because of the lack of exercise and the poor diet, the meat from these animals is very soft. The young calves are not able to play or run around, and they show signs of distress and frustration, like sucking on the bars of their crates. After just 4-6 months, the weak, malnourished calves are slaughtered.

factoryfarm.org



To: cosmicforce who wrote (91777)12/20/2004 11:32:23 PM
From: Grainne  Respond to of 108807
 
Gee, that post was getting pretty long. Here is a web page about an animal sanctuary that goes into detail about the way cows and calves are treated, and also has sweet photographs of some very nice animals:

pasadosafehaven.org