To: Raymond Duray who wrote (9425 ) 12/21/2004 5:54:30 PM From: Don Earl Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 20039 RE: "As far as Joe Vialls and Carol Valentine, I have decided that these two are flaky enough that I no longer rely on them as credible sources." I don't recall running across many pieces by Vialls, other than the Home Run bit, which as I mentioned strikes as being too poorly documented to be considered credible. Valentine on the other hand strikes me as being as well informed on the topic of 9/11 as any of us, and does include plenty of documentation to justify her views. From what I can tell, there seems to be a line being drawn in the sand down the middle of 9/11 researchers. One side says there are too many things we don't know, and another official investigation is the only solution. The other side says we have enough evidence to make the case, and if 4 official investigations have failed to turn up the answers we already have, a fifth isn't likely to do any better. Valentine appears to fall into the later category, while from what I've seen, the concentrated effort to discredit her seems to be coming from the former. Of course, the exchange seems to be going both directions. While I can't say I agree with some of Valentine's theories straight across the board, I will say that after a Congressional investigation, a FEMA investigation, a Special Commission investigation, and a NIST investigation, anyone who still believes another investigation will produce meaningful results is suffering from a severe case of wishful thinking. Personally, I think both sides would benefit by joining forces to find a middle ground. Instead of the "Know Nothing Group" vs. the "Know It All Group", a "We Know Enough Group" someplace between the two is probably where the best results will be found. Take the best evidence and nail the Bush Crime Family to the wall.