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To: Bill who wrote (91911)	12/24/2004 1:17:27 AM
From: Grainne	Respond to of 108807

Sorry, but this is not a thread where you can just say that a very long article shows massive ignorance without going through it bit by bit and proving your case with research and evidence. Well, you can actually say it shows massive ignorance, but without proving your case your statement becomes irrelevant. I did reread it to see where you were referring to Dallas, Atlanta and Kansas City as being blue. That seems like a pointless argument--first because they are in red states (should the Republicans surgically excise every precinct that went for Kerry)--and second because in the paragraph in question the writer is still correct when he says that Desperate Housewives was more popular in those red state cities than in very liberal blue state cities. So what point exactly are you making? "Desperate Housewives, the hottest new show on television, features plotlines such as one in which a married woman is having an affair with her 17-year-old gardener and another in which a man murders his neighbor. Turns out, the show performed better in the November sweeps month in the red state markets of Dallas-Fort Worth (first), Atlanta (first) and Kansas City (second) than it did in the Blue state markets of New York (fourth), Chicago (fourth) and Boston (third), according to Nielson Media Research. The show did quite well in red state markets Salt Lake City (fourth) and Birmingham (sixth) as well." Do you really think that all Republicans are extremely moral and all Democrats are not? If so, then how would you explain this part of the article?: "There was never any doubt how the good people of Utah County, Utah, would vote on Nov. 2. It has long prided itself as a bastion of conservatism and family values. And so when voters were given the opportunity to choose between President Bush and Sen. John F. Kerry, 86 percent of them went for Bush, making Utah County the second most Republican county in the most Republican state in the country. Utah County has a population of roughly 370,000. Its largest employer is the Mormon-run Brigham Young University. But Utah County is also the home of a mid-1990s court case that demonstrated some of the ambiguity about "values," even in the reddest of the red states. Randy Spencer was the attorney that the court appointed to defend a the Movie Buff video store in American Fork from local prosecutors who had charged the store's owner with 15 counts of pornography for renting tapes such as "Jugsy," "Young Buns II" and "Sex Secrets of High-Priced Call Girls." The prosecutors claimed the store was violating the community standards of suburban Provo. Spencer, who describes himself as a devout Mormon, challenged the prosecution's definition of the community's values by subpoenaing records that showed Utah County tolerated the consumption of porn in several outlets: Utah County cable subscribers had ordered at least 20,000 explicit movies in the past two years; the Sun Coast Video store in the town of Orem was deriving 20 percent of its rental sales from adult movies, even though adult movies only made up 2 percent of the store's inventory; Dirty Jo Punsters in nearby Spanish Fork was racking up on average $111,000 dollars per year selling sex toys, blow up dolls and other adult fare; the Provo Marriott across the street from the courthouse sold 3,448 adult pay-per-view movie rentals in 1998 alone." Or let's consider the HUGE profits the Marriott Hotel chain, run by a nice Mormon family, makes on renting porn in hotel rooms? Don't you think this kind of profiteering on porn is a bit hypocritical for people who portray themselves as conservative and religious?