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To: Hugh A who wrote (57507)	12/22/2004 11:32:15 PM
From: Raymond Duray	Respond to of 74559

Hugh, I'm impressed by your erudition and willingness to put forth your argument regarding CO2 and the oceans. One minor quibble I'd have regards this passage: So, unless we get a massive shallowing in the CCD it is unrealistic to believe that rising pCO2 will cause massive reef dissolution, as is implied in the article I posted. Reef dissolution was not the concern of the article from what I read. The real problem lies in the toxicity of the environment for the coral polyps which would cease to create new reef structures should they perish due to adverse environmental conditions. * Reefs are something I'm paying attention to as a stressed environment: gbrmpa.gov.au There isn't an indication that CO2 is playing a role in stressing the coral today. However, global warming will play havoc with reef environments for the reasons cited in this article. * As to you insane obeisance to the lying son-of-a-bitch in the White House, all I can say is that I simply do not understand the zombie-like loyalty that criminal can engender in otherwise intelligent human beings. Hoping for your speedy recovery! Ray :)

To: Hugh A who wrote (57507)	12/22/2004 11:32:22 PM
From: Maurice Winn	Respond to of 74559

Wow Hugh, you've just turbocharged my liquid CO2 to the bottom of the ocean method. By adding clays to the liquid stream, the density would be greatly boosted and the power generation by the falling fluid greatly increased. There are mountains of clays which could be sent to the bottom of the ocean with the CO2. While the extra boost would help electricity supply, it would also buffer the CO2, preventing coral erosion and protect shell formation in little beasties [if the CO2 made it back up towards the surface]. There's lots of limestone, so maybe that could be mixed into the CO2 stream which would make a LOT of calcium available for oceanic beasties to grow shells and bones. Then we'd be bringing both oil AND limestone back to life. I wondered how to do something about limestone. Mqurice