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To: Maurice Winn who wrote (57522)	12/23/2004 3:37:07 AM
From: Taikun	Respond to of 74559

Mq, PV returns depend on location. Here in Washington WA state many installers have gone to Nevada, California and other solar-friendly states with: 1. better sun (WA is cloudier) 2. more state incentives (CA, NV, UT etc have incentives up to 50% of capital cost) 3. relatively higher costs of electricity (WA has lots of hydro, CA needs water for farmers, in UT hydro now competing w/drinking water) Annual after tax return on residential system in WA state: 2-4% CA, NV: 12-16% Commercial systems are higher return. Once the last of the glaciers melt here in WA state maybe it will be time for the installers to move home! D

To: Maurice Winn who wrote (57522)	12/23/2004 12:50:18 PM
From: Raymond Duray	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 74559

Mq, Re: We'll just have to agree to agree that photovoltaics aren't much of an option at present Agreed. *** Re: At $40 a barrel, Late October, $55.67 peak. Late November, $40.25 momentary correction. Today ~$44.00. 2003 marked the first year in a quarter of a century that England is once again a net importer of oil. We can and we will disagree about WTI, light sweet crude, ever falling below $40/bbl except for extremely brief periods of demand collapse. Recent Arctic air masses rolling over the Eastern U.S. will assure us that the inventory builds of October and November are a thing of the past. December drained the tanks. January and February will drain the pocketbooks of householders in our colder climes. Similarly, North American natural gas is now normalized at about $6.00/mcf. For most of the 1990s, nat gas averaged $2.00/mcf. The days of cheap energy are behind us. The days of planning for the future don't ever seem to come for a troglodyte like George Bush and his merry band of Natty Neanderthals.