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To: KLP who wrote (154755)	12/24/2004 9:05:06 AM
From: Sam	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 281500

KLP, if it is actually true that, as you say, "Saddam gave not one single iota of being anything like human during his 30 year tenure," then why exactly were we supporting him until 1990 or so? And why exactly did we have to actually make up fictional events in 1991 and get a daughter of a Kuwaiti ambassador to pretend to be a nurse and lie under oath in front of Congressional committee? Please recall that this woman--girl, really, she was in her early 20s at the time--was hired by Hill & Knoughten who in turn had had been hired by the WH to manage the PR for the war. She gave a tearful account of how she, a nurse, had seen those brutal Iraqi soldiers take babies from incubators and kill them for sport with their bayonettes, an account that infuriated both the listening Senators and the American public. Only many months later--after the decision to go to war against this "monster" was made--it turned out that she wasn't a nurse and this atrocity was entirely made up, as had been her identity. Ask yourself, why was this little charade necessary if "Saddam gave not one single iota of being anything like human during his 30 year tenure."

To: KLP who wrote (154755)	12/29/2004 11:38:00 AM
From: cnyndwllr	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

KLP, my silly "if we hadn't gone into Iraq Saddam might have taken the oil revenues and funded a cure for aids" post was simply an effort to respond to your own panic ridden "if we hadn't gone into Iraq" post. I'm surprised you weren't able to figure that out. My point was simply that anyone can make up "if" stories to justify anything; the real question is what evidence of motive, means and execution will buttress such claims. It takes all three before you can make a reasonable argument for a valid threat and a necessary, defensive war that intelligent people will accept. In the case of Saddam Hussein there is NOTHING substantial to support the doomsday scenario that posters like yourself present with the cry, "we had to do it before the sky fell...." That's why the same people who don't seem to give a shit about most people in the world now claim to have so much feeling for the Iraqi people that they were willing to go to war and kill them to "save them." Ed