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To: Louie_al-Arouri who wrote (1257)	12/26/2004 2:39:09 PM
From: Bill Ulrich	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 5425

yeah, yeah yeah, you're right. Although we told you precisely what Sylver was up to and showed you how it was gonna fail, it's still someone else's fault that you ignored it and lost money. Several times in a row. You duped yourself, time and time again, and have to resort to inventing a conspiracy so you don't bruise your own ego with ... reality. It's always someone else's fault.

To: Louie_al-Arouri who wrote (1257)	12/26/2004 3:35:06 PM
From: Bill Ulrich	Respond to of 5425

Well, why did you "follow" him after losing your money in RMIL, dolt? "Pugs clearly followed RMIL promoter Michael Zapara from RMIL to AZNT." You figured by doing the same thing over and over again, you were gonna get different results? "Hey Doctor, it hurts when I do this!" Well, stop doing that. Like I said, it's always someone else's fault. Wouldn't want reality to bruise your ego, would we? <g> Zapara's fault, Sylver's fault, Mann's fault, the SEC's fault, SI Bob's fault, Jesse Jackson's fault, Bua's fault, Congressman Dymally's fault, Zwebner's fault, Marchese's fault, Janice's fault, Elgindy's fault, tonto's fault, my fault, the Official Territory of Bermuda's fault ... for you being a three-time loser.

To: Louie_al-Arouri who wrote (1257)	12/27/2004 7:55:04 AM
From: scion	Respond to of 5425

I GARY DOBRY USING THE ALIASES "PUGS" and "SPIDER VALDEZ" POSTED ON SILICON INVESTOR CHAT LINES, AND CREATED A NEW CHAT LINE WHICH I CALLED "NO BASH FOR LEGACY." I MADE ACCUSATIONS AGAINST MICHAEL ZWEBNER INCLUDING FALSE AND DEFAMATORY STATEMENTS IN RELATION TO HIS ASSOCIATION WITH DCI AND HIS ALLEGED "SHORTING OF DCI STOCK AND HIS BANKRUPTCY". Talk Visual Chairman Wins $1 Million Judgment Against Libelous Internet Poster Business Wire, July 13, 2000 new MIAMI--(BUSINESS WIRE)--July 13, 2000 (OTC-BB: TVCP). Talk Visual Corporation Chairman Michael J. Zwebner announced today that the lawsuit(Federal District Court for the District of New Hampshire, Civil Action No. 98-CV-682-M) brought in New Hampshire against a number of defendants, including a certain Gary Dobry (alias Pugs, & Spider Valdez) and David Shepard (alias Rico Staris) has been settled. As part of the settlement, it has been agreed that the following public statement be officially made: THIS ANNOUNCEMENT APPEARS AS A MATTER OF RECORD. IN THE PERIOD OF SEPTEMBER THROUGH DECEMBER 1998, I GARY DOBRY USING THE ALIASES "PUGS" and "SPIDER VALDEZ" POSTED ON SILICON INVESTOR CHAT LINES, AND CREATED A NEW CHAT LINE WHICH I CALLED "NO BASH FOR LEGACY." I MADE ACCUSATIONS AGAINST MICHAEL ZWEBNER INCLUDING FALSE AND DEFAMATORY STATEMENTS IN RELATION TO HIS ASSOCIATION WITH DCI AND HIS ALLEGED "SHORTING OF DCI STOCK AND HIS BANKRUPTCY". I WISH NOW TO MAKE THE FOLLOWING STATEMENT. I NOW TOTALLY AND ABSOLUTELY APOLOGIZE TO MICHAEL ZWEBNER AND HIS FAMILY FOR ALL THE PAIN AND SUFFERING AND PUBLIC HUMILIATION I CAUSED HIM. I FURTHER STATE THAT I WAS WHOLLY MISLED BY THIRD PARTIES IN THE DISSEMINATION OF THIS FALSE INFORMATION, AND I CAME TO UNDERSTAND THAT THE PROMOTERS AND DIRECTORS OF DCI FALSELY CLAIMED THAT THE CONTINUING FALL IN THE DCI STOCK PRICE WAS A RESULT OF MICHAEL ZWEBNER'S SUPPOSED SHORT SELLING. TO MY EMBARRASSMENT I LATER LEARNED THAT WAS UNTRUE. I FURTHER INFORM YOU ALL THAT THE LAWSUIT FILED BY MR. ZWEBNER AGAINST ME HAS BEEN SETTLED. I, GARY DOBRY HAVE CONSENTED TO A SETTLEMENT JUDGMENT BEING ENTERED AGAINST ME FOR THE AMOUNT OF ONE MILLION DOLLARS IN FAVOR OF MICHAEL ZWEBNER. MR. ZWEBNER HAS AGREED NOT TO ENFORCE THE JUDGMENT FOR SO LONG AS I DO NOT ATTACK HIM OR HIS BUSINESSES FURTHER. WE HAVE ALSO AGREED TO SIGN A MUTUAL RELEASE. I REGRET HAVING BEEN INVOLVED IN THIS EPISODE. GARY DOBRY Michael Zwebner, in a statement made today, said, "This case was a libel case against me and against Legacy Software, Inc., now known as Talk Visual Corporation. I am pleased that this litigation is over. I feel vindicated in as much that these posters have come clean and have admitted their false and libelous actions. My family, and my business associates, as well as myself are relieved that all these false, malicious and libelous statements have been exposed for what they are, namely, FALSE, MALICIOUS AND LIBELOUS. The closure of this case, as well as the action taken by the Securities and Exchange Commission against DCI, Joseph Murphy, and others, is a very clear, loud and emphatic statement. It confirms to the public at large the real true facts, the truth, as I have always claimed it to be." findarticles.com

To: Louie_al-Arouri who wrote (1257)	12/27/2004 8:57:58 AM
From: scion	Respond to of 5425

Q Have you ever referred in conversation, or email messages as Jay Marvin as your benefactor? A Yes. The continuing saga – Part 50 Reformatted for easier reading – errors in the ‘original’ have not been corrected. Q Anyway, Mr. Marvin has, in fact, paid some, if not all of the legal fees have you incurred in this action, is that not correct? A Mr. Marvin has paid zero amount of my legal fees in this case so, no, that would not be correct N. that's ludicrous. Q Has any third party paid some or all of the fees you have incurred in this case? A No. Q The funds for your defense in this litigation have come from your personal assets? MR. RICHTER: I'm going to object to that. It's intruding into attorney-client privilege. MR. ARGENTAR: You're directing him not to answer? I presume. I'm not putting words in your mouth. MR. RICHTER: I'm thinking about it. I mean, I'll listen to, if you think there's some reason why this is an appropriate inquiry, I'll listen tot but other than that I don't think it's appropriate for him to answer that. BY MR. ARGENTAR: Q I'll withdraw question as long as you confirm that no other third party has paid any portion of the legal fees you've incurred in this action, correct? MR. RICHTER: I'm going to object to that as an ambiguous question. I'm going to object to it as intruding into attorney-client privilege and, you know, it's not clear what third party means. I don't object to your asking him, you know, did Mr. Marvin pay any of your legal fees. I don't object to any of that. MR. ARGENTAR: Well what's the distinction between Mr. Marvin and any other third party. MR. RICHTER: I don't know what any other their party means. BY MR. ARGENTAR: Q Any other individual or corporation, other than Mr. Marvin and yourself, have they paid any or all of the legal fees you have incurred in this pending action? A Mr. Marvin has paid zero money towards any legal fees whatsoever. Q Have you ever referred in conversation, or email messages as Jay Marvin as your benefactor? A Yes. Q What did you mean by that? A Jay was -- I met Jay when he bought paintings of mine. He's an act collector. MR. RICHTER: Just answer the question. THE WITNESS: But Jay is a really good guy is what I'm saying. Jay saw what I was going through and he donated -- to find out about the people who stalking me and harassing and invading my privacy. He donated some money towards P.I. bills and, you know, he did help me paid some P.I. bills to help me discern who was stalking me so for that I have a lot of gratitude towards Mr. Marvin. Q So he's paid for the services of private investigators to investigate whom. A He donated some funds -- I'm not sure of the amount. I think $10,000 toward the P.I. bills that -- oh, they include Michael Zwebner, just people for my book, and people who are stalking me. Q These are private investigators have you retained? A Yeah. Q And Mr. Marvin has paid for some of the services of the private investigators you have retained, right? A Right. Q And these private investigators, they have investigated Mr. Marchese; isn't that correct? A Oh, yes. Q And they have, in fact, gone to his residences; is that correct? A We were trying to discern where his residents are. That's what they were retained for. You can see Mr. Marchese won't give any discovery, so I paid P.I.s to obtain this information for me. Q The activities of the private investigators you've retained to investigate, amongst other people, Mr. Marchese, that has occurred subsequent to the filing of this litigation? A I believe it started with Zwebner. So you know, I really don't know. I mean, I've used multiple investigators and they've gotten multiple things from me and started before -- well, you know Zwebner is an associate of Marchese. So it started when I started getting sued by these guys, you know so it starts then. Message 18161470

To: Louie_al-Arouri who wrote (1257)	12/27/2004 9:09:25 AM
From: scion	Respond to of 5425

"there are benefactors because it is felt it will make a good piece as dobry feels it will be a good book. the information about you is completely accurate. when new counsel files, the complaint will be amended and names will be added." Dobry and Marvin have been touting around their book idea to various people, including at least one conspiracy site and book kook. It was rejected by the reputable publishers, as being rubbish, but they continue to try to sell their "story" about the mob running the all the BB stocks. Of course, Janice, salem and scion are the main mobsters in the story line. I guess when Marvin couldn't persuade WLS and ABC that Dobry's delusions would make a great TV documentary, Dobry and Marvin were sure it was just another part of the Get Dobry conspiracy. By: Maytag_Repairs $$$$ 18 Jun 2001, 12:52 AM EDT Msg. 119848 of 181225 (This msg. is a reply to 119847 by bob_z1.) the problem, robert, with you and your friends is you talk out your respective a*sses. martucci is withdrawing because a firm is taking the case. dobry posted long ago that mr. vrdolyak would litigate the case. another firm, refered by the p.i.'s, was chosen because they have worked together on other cases in the past and will present what they have found to the fbi. there are benefactors because it is felt it will make a good piece as dobry feels it will be a good book. the information about you is completely accurate. when new counsel files, the complaint will be amended and names will be added. ragingbull.lycos.com Message 18240625

To: Louie_al-Arouri who wrote (1257)	12/27/2004 9:17:19 AM
From: scion	Respond to of 5425

"I made my living training fighters when I lived in Paris & one came over to the states to train under me here. " OR... "I made my way thru school, Universite' de Paris, by playing the guitar in the metros of Paris" ..said Dobry. By: FBN_Destroyer $$$$ 21 Mar 2000, 03:49 PM EST Msg. 30653 of 181225 (This msg. is a reply to 30641 by scion.) actually scion, I made my living training fighters when I lived in Paris & one came over to the states to train under me here. I see you lied about knowing french, otherwise you'd engage me in a conversation, where did you live in FRance? BWAAAAAHAAAA! FBN DEstroyer ragingbull.lycos.com "I made my way thru school, Universite' de Paris, by playing the guitar in the metros of Paris" To:Jeff Harrington who wrote (16256) From: Pugs Monday, Nov 10, 1997 4:33 PM View Replies (1) \| Respond to of 55353 Jeff, I just wanted to add, I made my way thru school, Universite' de Paris, by playing the guitar in the metros of Paris.....the things $$ can't buy!!, Pugs Message 2687281 Message 18251419

To: Louie_al-Arouri who wrote (1257)	12/27/2004 9:20:35 AM
From: scion	Respond to of 5425

The CARTEL/FOUNDATION is HOLDING....DEMAND THOSE CERTS...ITS' GUT-CHECK TIME!!!!!, Pugs To: Riley G who wrote (16260) 11/10/1997 4:43:00 PM From: Pugs Read Replies (1) of 55464 FORGOTTEN!!!.....lets' put some pressure on tommorow!!! GET ON THOSE BROKERS TO FILL CERTIFICATE ORDERS. I sent out the letter suggested by Riley, w/ copies to the SEC & NASDQ.....My certs should be waiting for me when I get home!!!, I DEMANDED MY BROKER GO TO THE OPEN MARKET TO GET MY CERTS!!!, next thing I know, the clearinghouse informs us, the certs were mailed to me Friday!!!!, PRESSURE!!! SOLIDARITY!!! NO WALK-DOWN TODAY!!! The CARTEL/FOUNDATION is HOLDING....DEMAND THOSE CERTS...ITS' GUT-CHECK TIME!!!!!, Pugs Message 2687392