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To: NOW who wrote (23784)	12/26/2004 5:08:58 PM
From: SOROS	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 110194

Beautiful! I think I'll go throw up now. Can someone post a rebuttal that consists of more than just "yea, and there are aliens also", or "you nutcases enjoy your life." That seems to be all those that believe everything the gov't and wallstreet machine feed them can ever say. I remain, SOROS

To: NOW who wrote (23784)	12/26/2004 7:11:37 PM
From: yard_man	Respond to of 110194

amazingly tragic In Los Angeles, the head of the Pacific Tsunami Warning Center said U.S. officials who detected the undersea quake tried frantically to get a warning out about the tsunami. But there was no official alert system in the region, said Charles McCreery, director of the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration's center in Honolulu. "It took an hour and a half for the wave to get from the earthquake to Sri Lanka and an hour for it to get ... to the west coast of Thailand and Malaysia," he said. "You can walk inland for 15 minutes to get to a safe area." "We tried to do what we could," he said. "We don't have contacts in our address book for anybody in that part of the world."

To: NOW who wrote (23784)	12/27/2004 1:34:59 PM
From: glenn_a	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 110194

Happy holidays tooearly. Well, I've been on my back with the flu for the past week, and out of town visiting family for the holidays. But ... before I left I had time to listen to the 3 segments of the BBC's "Power of Nightmares" series. I thought it was generally very well done, and the contrasting of Neoconservatism and with a particular strand of Fundamentalist Islam (I also like the term Islamofascism) was interesting. I sure do find the political philosophy of Leo Strauss and the Neoconservatives interesting - and their concerns regarding the limitations/failings of a liberal society. Quite extraordinary. Really, it appears to me to be the concern of liberalism shared by fascists everywhere, and their remedies are very similar as well. But their notion of the utility of a shared, cohesive national myth, and the Neocons approval of the use of disinformation to tell "noble lies" to the masses, I find incredibly repulsive. Nonetheless, in fractured and fragile social fabrics, their methods and tactics have been the weapons of those who seek to project their "will to power" for eons. [Just an aside, anyone ever read Robert Persig's "Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance"? The final part of the book has Persig's character lose his mind after a stint at the University of Chicago subjected to a worldview that I only now realize was precisely tied to the Straussian worldview. I believe Persig called it the "Great Society" program (or something like that). But it revered the classics and Greek thought - Plato in particular - and abhorred notions of relevant truth that could not easily be embodied as "pure" unquestionable Ideas. Don't know if I'm describing this exactly right, or if someone might shed some additional light on the matter, but encountering Straussian thought the relation become evident.] Also, totally OT here, but for anyone interested Dave Emory's has a great couple of recent interviews with Consortium.org's Robert Parry. See the following link: wfmu.org The most recent interview from December 21st also contains a very nice tribute to Gary Webb (the authentic journalist who recently took his life). Anyway, a very provocative series. Thanks te. And best wishes for 2005. Regards, Glenn