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To: Elroy who wrote (213921)12/28/2004 7:29:43 AM
From: Taro  Respond to of 1572886
 
I lifted this from the OVTI thread on Yahoo and believe it has some bearing to this thread as well. Enjoy and learn some history.

Taro

"Hey, dumbf... do you have a clue why the Poles and Ukraines support our cause in Iraq? Because, unlike a dumbf... like yourself, they understand that what goes around comes around. They either stand up and support democracy elsewhere when necessary or expect no support for their own democracies"

>NEW YORK POST
>OUR FORGOTTEN ALLIES
>By RALPH
>December 22, 2003

>THE decisive turning point in the West's long struggle against
>Islamic conquerors came on the afternoon of Sept. 12, 1683, during
>the last Turkish siege of Vienna. Severely outnumbered Polish
>hussars - the finest cavalry Europe ever produced - charged into the
>massed Ottoman ranks with lowered lances and a wild battle cry.
>
>Led by the valiant King Jan Sobieski, the Poles had marched to save
>Vienna while other Europeans looked away. The French - surprise! -
>had cut a deal with the sultan. (To Louis XIV, humbling the rival
>Habsburgs trumped the fate of Western civilization.)
>
>The odds were grim. Many of King Jan's nobles feared disaster. But
>Sobieski risked his kingdom - actually a rough-and-tumble democracy
>- to save a continent.
>
>On that fateful afternoon, the Polish cavalry struck the Turkish
>lines with such force that 2,000 lances shattered. The charge
>stunned the Ottoman army. A hundred thousand Turks ran for the
>Danube.
>
>No army from the Islamic world ever posed such a threat to the West
>again.
>Poland's thanks for its courage? In the next century, the country
>was sliced up like a pie by the ungrateful Habsburgs, along with the
>Romanovs of Russia and the Prussian Hohenzollerns. It was the most
>cynical action in European history until the Molotov-Ribbentrop
>Pact, which divided Poland again in 1939.
>But the Poles never gave up their belief in their country - or in
>freedom. During our own revolution, our first allies were Polish
>freedom fighters such as Casimir Pulaski and Tadeusz Kosciusko.
>(Paris only joined the fight when it looked like we might win. And
>France intervened to spite Britain, not to help us.)
>
>Throughout the 19th century, Poles fought for freedom wherever the
>struggle raged, in Latin America, Greece and Italy, and on the Union
>side in our Civil War. Although their country had been raped by the
>great powers of Europe, Poles kept her cause alive.
>Again and again, Poles rose against their occupiers, only to be
>savagely put down, with their finest young men slaughtered or
>marched to Siberian prisons. Then, at the end of the Great War,
>Poland suddenly reappeared on the maps.
>
>What did the Poles do? They immediately saved Western civilization
>yet again. In the now-forgotten "Miracle on the Vistula, August
>14-15, 1920" a patched-together Polish army turned back the Red
>hordes headed for Berlin. One of history's most brilliant campaigns,
>it saved defeated Germany from a communist takeover.
>
>Poland's thanks? The slaughter of World War II. Then the Soviet
>occupation.
>But the Poles never gave up. Their language, their faith - and their
>martial traditions - were maintained with rigor and pride. Of all
>the countries that gained their freedom as the Soviet Union
>collapsed, none had struggled for liberty as relentlessly as Poland.
---Continued..