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To: Dale Baker who wrote (1349)	12/28/2004 11:31:55 AM
From: Jeffrey S. Mitchell	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 5425

The government database stuff is referred to as "overt acts" as evidence of other crimes (e.g. securities fraud as pertains to targeted companies, and obstruction of justice as pertains to when 'Elgindy' was the search term). So, while obvious in nature, they still need to be evaluated in a criminal context. Whether in and of themselves these acts are a smoking gun of the charges, I don't have any legal education to form a meaningful opinion. As for the other guy, we're talking seven years of obsessive stalking. You'll just have to take the words of people who have been there and done that some people just refuse to be ignored, and, quite the opposite, use that to convince themselves they are right and should continue with even more vigor and vitriol. I mean, jeez, we're talking about someone who gives real dead babies as presents-- and brags about it. Isn't that an overt act? - Jeff

To: Dale Baker who wrote (1349)	12/29/2004 12:39:01 AM
From: Janice Shell	Respond to of 5425

I'm not so sure. I would guess the most likely conviction is conspiring with an FBI agent to get classified information from a government database. It seems that Cleveland did most of the "communicating" with Royer. Tony claims that it was okay for him to have the information in question, and I find that at least moderately plausible. I think they have a better chance of getting him on the extortion charge, if it can indeed be proved. But then we're just reading snippets of the testimony the reporters found significant. It'd be interesting to have access to a complete transcript.