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To: Ish who wrote (92859)12/29/2004 10:43:42 PM
From: LindyBill  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 793750
 
Here is the SO version, the SCAR
Picture at strategypage.com

Last year, the U.S. Special Operations Command (SOCOM) issued a specification for the SOF (Special Operations Forces) Combat Assault Rifle (SCAR). At the time, the U.S. Army was also developing a new assault rifle, the XM-8, and it was thought that SOCOM might use a version of the XM-8 for its own needs. SCAR, however, is somewhat different from the XM-8. For one thing, SCAR must be able to quickly change barrels and receivers so that it can fire 5.56mm, 7.62mm (large cartridge, like the M-14 and American medium machine-guns) or the short (AK-47) 7.62mm rounds. Moreover, SCAR has to be even more rugged and reliable (and expensive to build) than the XM-8. As a result, the XM-8 lost out to a custom series of weapons from the Belgium firm, FN Herstal.

SCAR is actually two different rifles, the “light” version (5.56mm) and the “heavy” (7.62mm). Maximum number of weapons to be ordered will be 155,000 (84,000 standard lights, 28,000 closer-quarter combat versions of the light rifle, 12,000 light sniper types, 15,000 standard heavies, 7,000 heavy close-quarters combat conversions of the heavy rifle and 12,000 heavy sniper rifles.)

Meanwhile, the U.S. Army has given all other rifle manufacturers one more chance to submit weapons to compete with the current Heckler & Koch XM-8. This is a sign that official acceptance and mass production is not far away. However, not all of the senior army, or Department of Defense, brass are willing to spend the billions of dollars it will cost to reequip the troops with the XM-8. There should be a decision by next year, however. Meanwhile, SOCOM will have SCAR, even if the army ends up not getting the XM-8.

Pictures of the XM-8 images.google.com



To: Ish who wrote (92859)12/30/2004 6:35:16 AM
From: unclewest  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 793750
 
I bet you'd like to get some trigger time on the new XM8 carbine.

LOL...I'd be happy to get some trigger time with an M4 with all the various sight assemblies now available.

Two key features of the XM8 that I like are the light weight, and the near permanent lubrication feature. Supposedly it can go for weeks of daily use without cleaning.
But, I would have to see the latter to believe it.

H&K is always outstanding. Remember the MP5? And their MP7 comes in at 4 pounds loaded with a round that penetrates body armor.

I'm considering their new P2000SK .40 for myself. If it came in a .357 model, I'd already have one.

I figure the merger with Merkel should make them the premier shotgun maker in the world. I'll be looking for a new home defense gun from them.

We should get LB to convert this to a gun thread.
:o)