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Politics : Should God be replaced? -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Greg or e who wrote (19054)	12/30/2004 9:32:43 PM
From: Solon	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 28931

As your site admits: "Have any more suggestions? Let us know! (This list was originally compiled by "GakuesiDon" and has since been added to by various contributors.)" As I said before: that site is juvenile gibberish and it exposes your shallow and childish concept of "argument". It is so feebleminded as to pull me between the poles of pity and contempt. At least daytrader posts idiotic remarks from biblical creatures who had the excuse and valid reason of PRIMITIVE IGNORANCE. You, on the other hand, simply post idiotic remarks from ACTUAL dyed in the wool IDIOTS! LOL! Not to be unexpected from those who believe that Egyptian magicians could create life like all the thousands of “Gods“ have--but that ALL the history books have forgotten to mention these and other incredible achievements they had reached! The science or wizardry of it just disappeared! Yeah...you have a real solid "argument" going from the lunatic fringe!

To: Greg or e who wrote (19054)	12/31/2004 12:54:07 AM
From: average joe	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 28931

Was Jesus Gay? by Matt Johns (Los Angeles, California) As Christians celebrate the birth of Jesus few of them will be told in their churches and Cathedrals anything about the sexuality of Jesus, yet a growing group of Biblical scholars believe that Christ may have had at least one sexual relationship with another male. Noted Methodist theologian Rev. Theodore Jennings Jr. and Dr Morton Smith, a world renowned Bible scholar, say there is irrefutable evidence that Jesus was at least bisexual. Dr Rollan McCleary of the University of Queensland, in Australia, says he has discovered through his research that three of the disciples were gay. Prof. Smith points to a fragment of manuscript he found at the Mar Saba monastery near Jerusalem in 1958 which he says alludes to Jesus having a homosexual relationship with a youth he raised from the dead. The fragment shows that the full text of St. Mark, Chapter 10 (between verses 34 and 35 in the standard version of the Bible) includes the following passage: "And the youth, looking upon him (Jesus), loved him and beseeched that he might remain with him. And going out of the tomb, they went into the house of the youth, for he was rich. And after six days, Jesus instructed him and, at evening, the youth came to him wearing a linen cloth over his naked body. And he remained with him that night, for Jesus taught him the mystery of the Kingdom of God". Rev. Jennings, a professor at the United Church of Christ's Chicago Theological Seminary, points to the Gospel of St. John. In his book "The Man Jesus Loved: Homoerotic Narratives From the New Testament," Jennings writes that the reference in St John about "the disciple Jesus loved" was actually a reference to Jesus' gay boyfriend. Jennings also claims the centurion's servant who was healed by Jesus actually was the centurion's gay boyfriend and that Jesus did not denounce their relationship. Dr McCleary spent three years researching “gay spirituality”. His book, "Signs for a Messiah" says that Jesus and at least three of his disciples were gay, and Christianity in general is built on “gay principles”. McCleary says that Christianity needs to recognize its homosexual roots and abandon the practice of alienating gays and spreading homophobia. British gay rights advocate Peter Tatchell says even though the information about Jesus' sexuality remains scant, "there is certainly no evidence for the Church's presumption that he was heterosexual. Nothing in the Bible points to him having desires or relationships with women. The possibility of a gay Christ cannot be ruled out." "Since there is no proof of the heterosexuality of Jesus, the theological basis of Church homophobia is all the more shaky and indefensible," Tatchell said. "Large chunks of Jesus' life are missing from the Biblical accounts. This has fuelled speculation that the early Church sanitized the gospels, removing references to Christ's sexuality that were not in accord with the heterosexual morality that it wanted to promote", said Tatchell. The Vatican has denounced the research by Jennings, Smith and McCleary as "heretical". It has also been denounced by Southern Baptists and evangelical Anglicans. When recently asked if his research might be tainted because he is gay, McCleary said: "You could see that either way. You could also say that heterosexual people have their eyes wide shut on the matter, that they don't want to see that Jesus would have been of gay disposition. "You maybe have to be gay to read the signals and to see things and research things which other people wouldn't," he added.