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To: Bruce L who wrote (22643)	12/30/2004 9:36:31 AM
From: Chas.	Respond to of 23153

great article thankss for the post..... it really all boils down to one word or one compound word..... Mindset.......Top level Mindset specifically it has been missing since Stansfield Turner under Jimmy Carter emasculated the CIA in the seventies...... we have still not recovered from that event...... and our media still treats those two as if they were some kind of American heros........ regards

To: Bruce L who wrote (22643)	12/30/2004 12:41:56 PM
From: kodiak_bull	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 23153

Bruce, Interesting article. I think one of the problems that the articles hints around but doesn't state specifically is that intelligence has also worried about "rogue actions". Maybe rogue actions isn't the right phrase, but the kind of thing where a Senator from Ohio can keel-haul some higher-up about some sort of intelligence idea which can look bad. How do you guard against rogue actions, guys off the reservation, potential embarassments? Easy. Three dreaded words: policies and procedures. What were the policies and procedures? Did they make sense? Were they adequate? Were they followed? If you can answer yes to all of those questions then you are safe. Not safe from Al Qaeda, but safe from Frank Church, Howard Metzenbaum and a host of sanctimonious senators and others (the NYT?) who would like to hang your hide on the wall. Abu Greib didn't look very nice, and maybe wasn't effective in getting information, but who wouldn't trade a few Abu Greibs to avoid a 9/11 or the train bombing in Madrid? How can the necessary dark ops ever pass Policies And Procedures? What's another name for policies and procedures? Review by appropriate committee. I always laugh when I go into an airport and see the random screening. It comports with policies and procedures to do a full body search on a grandmother from Minnesota flying to Des Moines to see her grandchildren, even though she's garbed completely in pastels and wearing non-sensible shoes, and NOT to profile swarthy looking young men flying with foreign passports. It's called Airport Security. I think of it as Airport Stupidity. Kb