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To: Orcastraiter who wrote (24212)	12/31/2004 3:39:05 PM
From: Lazarus_Long	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 90947

Does the name Bernie Schwartz ring a bell? Unindicted criminal transferred missile guidance technology to the Chinese, enabling them to put a nuke on my home. He was Slick Willie's biggest contributor. Remember Marc Rich? Last minute pardon by Slick Willie? And that Buddhist fundraiser Al Gore had NO IDEA was such a thing? People who live in glass houses....

To: Orcastraiter who wrote (24212)	12/31/2004 7:15:30 PM
From: Oeconomicus	Respond to of 90947

"Does the name Keneth Lay ring a bell. Indicted criminal is number one donor to Bush." Are you deliberately lying or just ignorant of the facts? Ken Lay (and family) or even all Enron associated donors together don't come close to being the "number one top donor to Bush". From his two presidential campaigns alone, there are four companies whose employees gave more than your linked website says Enron employees have given Bush over his entire political career. Oops, huh? GEORGE W. BUSH (R) Top Contributors Cycle: All Cycles Morgan Stanley $750,380 Merrill Lynch $712,429 PriceWaterhouseCoopers $639,298 UBS Americas $621,975 MBNA Corp $595,025 Credit Suisse First Boston $520,940 Goldman Sachs $520,599 Ernst & Young $481,589 Citigroup Inc $430,300 Vinson & Elkins $381,628 Deloitte Touche Tohmatsu $369,050 Lehman Brothers $360,675 Bear Stearns $342,080 Bank of America $328,761 Wachovia Corp $322,810 US Government $322,137 JP Morgan Chase & Co $311,105 Blank Rome LLP $297,900 Microsoft Corp $258,040 Ameriquest Capital $248,400 opensecrets.org All Lay contributions to Bush presidential campaigns: Results: 4 records found in 0.2188 seconds. Search Criteria: Donor name: lay Donor occupation: enron Recipient: bush Cycle(s) selected: 2004, 2002, 2000 Total for this search: $3,000 Contributor Occupation Date Amount Recipient LAY, KENNETH L HOUSTON,TX 77019 ENRON CORPORATION 3/29/1999 $1,000 Bush, George W LAY, KENNETH L MR HOUSTON,TX 77019 ENRON CORPORATION/EXECUTIVE 5/17/2000 $1,000 Bush, George W LAY, MARK K HOUSTON,TX 77019 ENRON CORP 5/26/1999 $500 Bush, George W LAY, MARK K HOUSTON,TX 77019 ENRON CORP 6/7/1999 $500 Bush, George W opensecrets.org All Lay political contributions, 2000-2004 election cycles: opensecrets.org All Lay political contributions, 1996 and 1998 cycles: opensecrets.org BTW, John Kerry's top career donors are mostly law firms ($22 million in 2004 cycle alone) and Wall Street financial firms. We know what the lawyers wanted, of course.