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To: Suma who wrote (24302)	1/1/2005 12:47:11 PM
From: Oeconomicus	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 90947

"whatever it was that gave him those words he spoke they were lies..." Please be specific. Show me where Bush said anything that he knew or believed to be untrue with intent to deceive or mislead. "He has never said to my knowledge.. I was given faulty information and I am sorry for having pushed this country to war on false premises.." Why should he? He, like most Americans, believes going to war to remove Saddam Hussein from power was the right thing to do, regardless of whether the pre-war WMD intel was faulty. He didn't "push [the] country to war on false premises" and he believes the war is just. You want him to apologize for doing what he thinks is right? ... What am I asking? Of course you do. An apology would affirm your belief that he's done something deceitful, malicious and wrong - that he lied to start an unjustified war. Sorry, Suma, but he didn't and it isn't.

To: Suma who wrote (24302)	1/3/2005 12:47:32 PM
From: Sully-	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 90947

Suma, where have you been? It seems you did not listen to Bush and all of his speeches about Iraq. You are so focused on "stockpiles" of WMD's that you have ignored everything else Bush said. And the bottom line is that Bush was right to remove Saddam based solely on the facts. The Iraq Survey Group report provides ample evidence to support those facts. Bush repeatedly mentioned that Saddam had failed to comply with UN Resolutions for more than 12 years. All of the resolutions included references to complete compliance with UN Resolution #687......... The Gulf War Cease Fire Agreement - AKA - UN Resolution #687, was a ZERO TOLERANCE policy. That meant Saddam had to; 1) Completely eliminate every aspect of his WMD PROGRAMS (not just "stockpiles"). This included provisions for the complete destruction of all offensive weapons. This had to be done in a completely verifiable manner to UN Inspectors. 2) Saddam had to completely eliminate every tie to terrorists (internal & external). 3) Saddam had to completely halt his crimes against humanity. 4) Saddam had to make full reparations to Kuwait, ET AL. Now this was the short & sweet version. There were absolutely no provisions that allowed any deviation from each explicit requirement. It meant 100%, unconditional compliance. Every single UN Resolution, including Resolution 1441 was irrevocably tied to #687. Saddam spent more than 12 years in utter defiance of every one of the above requirements before Bush's so-called "rush to war". You know, where "Bush lied & misled" America into a "unilateral", "illegal" war to take over their oil for his Big Oil cronies? Text of UN Resolution 687 dalebroux.com Comprehensive Report of the Special Advisor to the DCI on Iraq’s WMD cia.gov