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To: one_less who wrote (92444)	1/4/2005 7:10:36 PM
From: Emile Vidrine	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 108807

"while allowing that divinity itself is beyond temporal description in the sense of being the alpha and omega of all existence (the one). " This statement has a fundamental flaw in that it denies empirical historical data from eyewitnesses. Thousands of first century Hebrews and Gentiles were eyewitnesses of divinity and saw, touched, and heard divinity in the flesh. This incarnate divinity took on the fullness of humanity without ever giving up his divinity. From the embryo to manhood he experienced all the temptations of our weaknesses, perversions and immorality that came to us as a consequence of our fallen nature. Yet He never gave in to even one of these weaknesses. He never gave in to sin. He remained fully divine within his inherited tabernacle of clay. He demonstrated that he was both the alpha and omega by raising the dead, healing the incurable, loving the unlovable and maintaining his perfect holiness in the midst of all temptations. Because of Him, mankind was given a concrete temporal icon of divinity interacting with his own creation.

To: one_less who wrote (92444)	1/4/2005 7:16:57 PM
From: Emile Vidrine	Respond to of 108807

"it is possible to engage the paradox of the one and the many or the three which are not," It is the three, as in Holy Trinity that are, and the one, as in Unitarian deity, that, as you put it, " is not". The three in one revealed themselves to many objective eyewitnesses at the baptism of Jesus by John and again at Mt. Tabor.

To: one_less who wrote (92444)	1/4/2005 7:36:38 PM
From: Emile Vidrine	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 108807

"without condemning people based on ethnic and community membership." I fully share your the sentiment people should NEVER be condemned because of their "ethnicity"! All men were put on this earth by God and have an equal right to enjoy their human dignity and freedom without the interference of other men. But I just as fully reject the idea that people should "never be condemned because of their community membership" Community membership simply means a human social organization or institution created to advance the common ideas and goals of the group. National Socialism, Communism and Zionism are three examples of such social organizations. I condemn the members of all three organizatiosn because the fundamental principles underlying all three of these organizations clearly infringes on the rights and human dignity of human beings who do not belong to these human organizations and institutions. In the the case of National Socialism or Nazism, or German Aryans can be full members in the organization (or nation--fatherland) and all other men, particularly Jewish people, are treated with less than their God-given human rights and dignity. In the case of Zionism, all Jews of the world can be full members of Zion (Israel--fatherland) and Zionism while all other men are treated with less than their God-given human rights and dignity. The racist ideology that created the membership of the Nazi Party came mostly from Meine Kampf and the racial theories of Rosenberg. The ideology that created Zionism came mostly from fundamentalist Orthodox Judaism and the Babylonian Talmud. Consequently, I think it is proper to condemn the "community memberships" of both of these human institutions.