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To: Sully- who wrote (6975)2/19/2005 11:15:16 PM
From: Sully-  Respond to of 35834
 
Cleaning up an old post.....

No Terrorism in Iraq Before the War?

Who does John Kerry think he's kidding?

by Stephen F. Hayes
09/16/2004 12:00:00 AM

"There was no terrorism in Iraq before we went to war."

--Stephanie Cutter, chief spokesman, John Kerry for President
Los Angeles Times, September 9, 2004

IN THE LAST FEW DAYS, John Kerry's campaign has challenged Bush administration claims of an Iraq-al Qaeda connection. The effort has been amateurish and confused. Kerry has conflated two separate issues--an Iraq-September 11 connection (which cannot be proven) and the Iraq-al Qaeda connection (which has been)--in a lame attempt to accuse the Bush administration of "misleading" America about the Iraq war.

No one should be surprised at distortions coming from a presidential campaign. (Journalists, however, continue to surprise. Where are the John Kerry versions of the fact-checking articles on Bush that the Associated Press distributes on the wire and that the Washington Post, and the New York Times splash on their front pages?)

On the other hand, on September 7 Kerry said that the soldiers who have died in Iraq have done so "on behalf of freedom in the war on terror." It was a moment of lucidity the Kerry campaign could not let stand. Kerry spokesman Stephanie Cutter told the Los Angeles Times that the comment should not be misinterpreted as endorsing Bush administration claims of an Iraq-al Qaeda connection. And then she dropped the stunner at the top of the page: "There was no terrorism in Iraq before we went to war. There is now terrorism there now."

Really?


Kerry campaign:

"There was no terrorism in Iraq before we went to war."

CIA Analysis, January 2003: Iraqi Support for Terrorism, (p. 314 of Senate Intel Report):

"Iraq has a long history of supporting terrorism."


Kerry campaign:

"There was no terrorism in Iraq before we went to war."

CIA Analysis, January 2003--Iraqi Support for Terrorism, (p. 314 of Senate Intel Report):

"Iraq continues to be a safehaven, transit point, or operational node for groups and individuals who direct violence against the United States, Israel and other allies."


Kerry campaign:

"There was no terrorism in Iraq before we went to war."

Bipartisan Senate Intelligence Committee Report (p. 315):

"The CIA provided 78 reports, from multiple sources, [redacted] documenting instances in which the Iraqi regime either trained operatives for attacks or dispatched them to carry out attacks."


Kerry campaign:

"There was no terrorism in Iraq before we went to war."

Bipartisan Senate Intelligence Committee Report (p. 316):

"Iraq continued to participate in terrorist attacks throughout the 1990s."


Kerry campaign:

"There was no terrorism in Iraq before we went to war."

Bipartisan Senate Intelligence Committee Report (p. 316):

"From 1996 to 2003, the [Iraqi Intelligence Service] focused its terrorist activities on western interests, particularly against the U.S. and Israel."


Kerry campaign:

"There was no terrorism in Iraq before we went to war."

Bipartisan Senate Intelligence Committee Report (p. 316):

"Throughout 2002, the [Iraqi Intelligence Service] was becoming increasingly aggressive in planning attacks against U.S. interests. The CIA provided eight reports to support this assessment."


Kerry campaign:

"There was no terrorism in Iraq before we went to war."

Bipartisan Senate Intelligence Committee Report (p. 331):

"Twelve reports received [redacted] from sources that the CIA described as having varying reliability, cited Iraq or Iraqi national involvement in al Qaeda's [chemical, biological, nuclear] CBW efforts."

Kerry campaign:

"There was no terrorism in Iraq before we went to war."


The 9/11 Commission Report (p. 66):

"In March 1998, after bin Laden's public fatwa against the United States, two al Qaeda members reportedly went to Iraq to meet with Iraq Intelligence. In July, an Iraqi delegation traveled to Afghanistan to meet first with the Taliban and then with bin Laden."


A few days ago the Kerry campaign eagerly "clarified" the senator's claim that soldiers in Iraq had died "on behalf of freedom in the war on terror." Any chance of a another clarification? Does John Kerry really believe that "there was no terrorism in Iraq before we went to war
?"


Stephen F. Hayes is a staff writer at The Weekly Standard and author of The Connection: How al Qaeda's Collaboration with Saddam Hussein has Endangered America (HarperCollins).

weeklystandard.com

weeklystandard.com



To: Sully- who wrote (6975)3/19/2005 6:59:58 PM
From: Sully-  Respond to of 35834
 
Uh huh. It's always been about "stockpiles of WMD's.

Oh ya, and there is no liberal MSM bias. Uh huh......

YAWN

Where is Sergeant Friday When We Need Him?

Power Line

Our old friend AP reporter Jennifer Loven, discussed here and here, is at it again. Today Ms. Loven attacks President Bush's weekly radion address, in which Bush hailed progress toward democracy in the Middle East:

<<<

The U.S. military victory against Saddam Hussein's regime in Iraq gets the credit for "inspiring democratic reformers from Beirut to Tehran," President Bush said Saturday
>>>

Loven can't let that go by without supplying a little "context":


<<<

With his primary rationale for the war — Saddam's alleged possession of weapons of mass destruction — discredited, Bush has turned to the argument that the war in Iraq was justified because it freed the Iraqi people from a brutal dictator and now gives the Middle East a model for democracy.
>>>

Well, that's the DNC talking point, all right, and it's not surprising to see Ms. Loven (whose husband was listed on John Kerry's web site as one of Kerry's key supporters) echoing the DNC line. Only, of course, it isn't true. The administration's rationale for the Iraq war was always multiple, and it always included the humanitarian imperative, as expressed by President Bush in this March 2003 speech, as on many other occasions:


<<<

We know from recent history that Saddam Hussein is a reckless dictator who has twice invaded his neighbors without provocation -- wars that led to death and suffering on a massive scale. We know from human rights groups that dissidents in Iraq are tortured, imprisoned and sometimes just disappear; their hands, feet and tongues are cut off; their eyes are gouged out; and female relatives are raped in their presence.

As the Nobel laureate and Holocaust survivor, Elie Wiesel, said this week, "We have a moral obligation to intervene where evil is in control. Today, that place is Iraq."

whitehouse.gov
>>>

Likewise, the strategy of defeating terror by reforming the Arab world was always a key element of the administration's approach to Iraq, as the President explained in November 2003:


<<<

This is a massive and difficult undertaking -- it is worth our effort, it is worth our sacrifice, because we know the stakes. The failure of Iraqi democracy would embolden terrorists around the world, increase dangers to the American people, and extinguish the hopes of millions in the region. Iraqi democracy will succeed -- and that success will send forth the news, from Damascus to Teheran -- that freedom can be the future of every nation. (Applause.) The establishment of a free Iraq at the heart of the Middle East will be a watershed event in the global democratic revolution. (Applause.)

Sixty years of Western nations excusing and accommodating the lack of freedom in the Middle East did nothing to make us safe -- because in the long run, stability cannot be purchased at the expense of liberty. As long as the Middle East remains a place where freedom does not flourish, it will remain a place of stagnation, resentment, and violence ready for export. And with the spread of weapons that can bring catastrophic harm to our country and to our friends, it would be reckless to accept the status quo. (Applause.)

Therefore, the United States has adopted a new policy, a forward strategy of freedom in the Middle East. This strategy requires the same persistence and energy and idealism we have shown before. And it will yield the same results. As in Europe, as in Asia, as in every region of the world, the advance of freedom leads to peace. (Applause.)

whitehouse.gov
>>>

Loven's revisionist history of the rationale for war is only the beginning of her attack on the President's speech. She also wants to make sure that newspaper readers don't fall for the idea that progress is being made in Iraq:


<<<

Bush said "the Iraqi people are taking charge of their own destiny," citing the country's first free and fair elections in its modern history, this week's first meeting of the Transitional National Assembly and the upcoming drafting of a constitution for a "free and democratic Iraq."

Against that progress, insurgents have carried on a relentless campaign of suicide bombings, kidnappings and beheadings while rampant crime, power outages, unemployment over 50 percent and a fuel crisis in one of the world's prime oil-exporting countries continues.

Even as the Iraqi legislators convened, they did not set a new date to meet reconvene, elect a speaker or nominate a president and vice president.
>>>

Am I missing something here? Last I knew, the Democrats had an opportunity to respond to the President's weekly address. Aren't mainstream reporters like Jennifer Loven supposed to be reporting on the President's speeches, as opposed to trying to refute them?


Posted by Hindrocket

powerlineblog.com



To: Sully- who wrote (6975)4/28/2005 11:07:29 AM
From: Sully-  Respond to of 35834
 
MORE ON THE NEW YORK TIMES' REVISIONISM (That Iraq was only
about "stockpules" of WMD's & absolutely nothing else)

Instapundit.com

At The Mudville Gazette.
mudvillegazette.com

UPDATE: Tom Maguire emails:

The Times was pummeled in Nov 2003 for this revisionism -
Andrew Sullivan (the old Andrew) had two timely posts.


andrewsullivan.com

andrewsullivan.com

EJ Dionne, *not* a Righty, criticized Bush after the 2003
SOTU for offering *three* rationales for war, and asked him to pick one.


workingforchange.com

Finally, here is the speech Feb 26, 2003 speech to which the
NY Times referred.


whitehouse.gov

Really, the Times -- and those others who are trying to rewrite history here -- ought to be ashamed. No one denies, of course, that Bush talked about WMD, but what's inexcusable is the way the critics are now trying to deny that he talked about anything else.

Roger Simon adds this observation:

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T]he Times' own executive editor wrote a long, positive profile in their magazine (before the war) of Paul Wolfowitz, in which the Deputy Defense Secretary speaks ad infinitum about the democracy argument. What I think is really going on here is liberal embarrassment. They have been caught on the wrong side of history. Worse, the anti-idealistic side.
>>>

Good point.

ANOTHER UPDATE: Tom didn't say he posted on this, but he did. Read the whole thing, which goes beyond the comments above, but this point is worth quoting:

<<<

Years later, the Times may be imagining that, since disarmament was the only reason that liberals wanted to hear, it must have been the only reason Bush offered
.

Well, they knew better at one time, and perhaps they will again.
>>>

Especially if we keep reminding them!


instapundit.com

rogerlsimon.com

justoneminute.typepad.com