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To: Neeka who wrote (93537)	1/4/2005 3:32:26 AM
From: KLP	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 793718

GOP: More Voting Discrepancies Found UPDATED: 3:51 PM PST January 3, 2005 kirotv.com SEATTLE -- State Republican Party leaders say they've found 8,400 more ballots cast than the number of voters registered in the state's five largest counties. State GOP Chairman Chris Vance says the mismatching numbers in King, Pierce, Snohomish, Clark and Kitsap are troubling. Republican Dino Rossi won the first two counts in the governor's race, then lost a hand recount to Democrat Christine Gregoire by a mere 129 votes. Republicans are mulling a possible legal challenge to the election, and Vance says discrepancies like the ones they found so far are clear indications that things went wrong. County officials have said it typically takes a while for election results to be reconciled with voter registration records. Copyright 2005 by The Associated Press

To: Neeka who wrote (93537)	1/4/2005 7:39:47 AM
From: unclewest	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 793718

My only concern is heaving aside everything, because if they are there, they are most likely buried under all the other stuff. This soap opera has legs. About 16 years ago, I built a 4 unit industrial building. Rented out three units and moved my small construction company into the fourth. I thought storing the stuff we always had left over after every job would save money on future jobs. A year and a half later, the space was full. One day I spent 2 hours looking for 20 bucks worth of material I knew was in there. I never found it. It hit me that I had paid a worker to haul stuff there, I would have to pay someone to find and haul the stuff to new sites and I was occupying space I could rent out and create income. 60 days later, all that stuff was in the dump and the space was leased. It got even better, because with no storage space, I started managing orders, deliveries and returns much closer. One more. A few years ago, I decide to unload most of my gun collection and did. The "cool" factor had long worn off and I did not want to maintain and store them. It was a relief to recapture the time that collection needed. I now wonder just how much money and time Americans spend on the cool factor.

To: Neeka who wrote (93537)	1/4/2005 12:10:59 PM
From: Ilaine	Respond to of 793718

I used to date a man who collected things. He collected books, 78 records, magazines, cameras, musical instruments, interesting old machines, among other things. You know how those men's magazine covers from the 40's and 50's are now being shown in museums? He collected those. Ever heard of Bettie Page? He collected stuff about her. Science fiction from the Golden Age. Personal computers from the beginning the era, including Sinclairs and TRS-80s. He lives in a nine room house that is so full of antique furniture and objects that it's hard to move around. Collectors are different from accumulators. The saddest people are the ones who accumulate things they don't value, but cannot bring themselves to dispose of. Those are the people they find dead months after their death, crushed to death by piles of old newspapers and magazines. Some places actually have mental health workers who specialize in these people. Fairfax does. One case I recall, they got called by neighbors when one lady's accumulation was so immense that she could no longer even fit into her house and had to sleep in the car. In her case, that was a mental disorder. But the line between insanity and genius is sometimes hard to draw. My old friend is often sought out by museums and scholars because of the interesting things he collects. But even though he's admired, everybody still thinks he's kind of nuts. Well, eccentric. Sometimes I wonder if this type of behavior can be found in other cultures. I mean, how could someone living in a subsistance economy accumulate enough stuff that it dominates their existence?

To: Neeka who wrote (93537)	1/4/2005 1:28:58 PM
From: Captain Jack	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 793718

In my households it is certainly a female that continues to accumulate 'stuff'. I continually take it to the street on Tues night. You were not rude... everyone comes to the 'stuff' stage at their own time. Mine just came sooner, possibly as I retired younger??? There have been a few things that were given away or trashed a little sooner than later wished, but overall happy someone else has it in use or it is out from underfoot. I am in the "two houses" situation. Now must be removing 'stuff' from two places only to see the space filled with more 'stuff'. Impatiently awaiting Wifey to find 'stuff' less needed-- my checkbook will enjoy the rest also.