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To: TigerPaw who wrote (15084)1/4/2005 8:15:02 PM
From: Raymond Duray  Respond to of 20773
 
Every idiotic mistake that was made in Viet Nam is now being repeated by the military.

Message 20916157

It's so sad for the Iraqi people that they've got a barbarian horde tearing up their lives, their families and their civilization.

"America, The Evil Destroyer" ought to be a Hollywood movie. Instead, they come up with dishonest, disingenuous crap like the proposed Harrison Ford movie making him a hero in the Rape of Fallujah. Yuck. What a sick society.



To: TigerPaw who wrote (15084)1/4/2005 10:57:15 PM
From: 49thMIMOMander  Respond to of 20773
 
Ritt Scotter, or was it Scott Ritter, Orwellian personalities, contemporary ones, pay-grade and all??

According to former Iraqi intelligence personnel I have communicated with recently, the Mukhabarat, under instructions from Saddam Hussein, had been preparing for some time before the invasion of Iraq on how to survive, resist and defeat any US-led occupation of Iraq.
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The risks of the al-Zarqawi myth
By Scott Ritter

Monday 03 January 2005, 21:39 Makka Time, 18:39 GMT

An interesting phenomenon is taking place today in the Iraqi city of Falluja.

For months now, the Bush administration had been building up the image of a massive network of foreign terrorists using Falluja as a base for their terror attacks against targets associated with the interim government of Iyad Allawi and the US military which backs him.

One name appeared in western media accounts, over and over again: Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, a wanted Jordanian turned alleged "terror" mastermind. Almost overnight, Zarqawi's terrorist group, al-Qaida Holy War for Iraq, expanded its operations across the width and breadth of Iraq.

Al-Zarqawi was everywhere, his bombers striking in Mosul, Baghdad, Samarra, Najaf, Baquba, Ramadi and Falluja. Islamist websites published accounts of al-Zarqawi's actions, and the western media, together with western intelligence services, ran with these stories, giving them credibility. The al-Zarqawi legend, if one can call it that, was born.

The problem is, there is simply no substance to this legend, as US marines are now finding out. Rather than extremist foreign fighters battling to the death, the marines are mostly finding local men from Falluja who are fighting to defend their city from what they view as an illegitimate occupier. The motivations of these fighters may well be anti-American, but they are Iraqi, not foreign, in origin.

There is, indeed, evidence of a foreign presence. But they were not the ones running the show in Falluja, or elsewhere for that matter. As a result, the US-led assault on Falluja may go down in history as the tipping point for the defeat of the US occupation of Iraq. The January 2005 elections are now very much in doubt, and anti-coalition violence has erupted throughout Iraq (including from sources claiming to be aligned with - no surprise - Abu Musab al-Zarqawi).

Reflecting back, one cannot help but wonder if al-Zarqawi was used as a lure to trap the Americans into taking this action. On the surface, the al-Zarqawi organisation seems too good to be true. A single Jordanian male is suddenly running an organisation that operates in sophisticated cells throughout Iraq. No one man could logically accomplish this. But there is an organisation that can - the Mukhabarat (intelligence) of Saddam Hussein.

A critical element of this resistance was to generate chaos and anarchy that would destabilise any US-appointed Iraqi government

According to former Iraqi intelligence personnel I have communicated with recently, the Mukhabarat, under instructions from Saddam Hussein, had been preparing for some time before the invasion of Iraq on how to survive, resist and defeat any US-led occupation of Iraq. A critical element of this resistance was to generate chaos and anarchy that would destabilise any US-appointed Iraqi government.

Another factor was to shift the attention of the US military away from the true heart of the resistance - Saddam's Baathist loyalists - and on to a fictional target that could be manipulated in an effort to control the pace, timing and nature of the US military response.

According to these sources, the selection of al-Zarqawi as a front for these actions was almost too easy. The Bush administration's singling out of al-Zarqawi prior to the war, highlighted by Colin Powell's presentation to the Security Council in February 2003, made the Jordanian an ideal candidate to head the Mukhabarat's disinformation effort.

The Mukhabarat was desperate for a way to divert attention from the fact that it was behind the attacks against Iraqi civilians. Iraqis killing Iraqis would turn the public against the resistance. It needed a foreign face, and al-Zarqawi provided it. A few planted CD disks later, and the al-Zarqawi myth was born.

In its attempts to use the al-Zarqawi myth to distract and defeat the US military and the interim government of Iyad Allawi, the Mukhabarat is engaged in a dangerous game. In embracing the al-Zarqawi myth, the Mukhabarat has engaged the forces of Islamist activism to a degree never before seen in modern-day Iraq.

Having created a fiction, there is a potential danger of it becoming a reality

According to my contacts, the goal in creating a foreign Islamist face for the violence taking place in Iraq is to get the Iraqi populace to turn away from Iyad Allawi and the US military as a source of stability, and endorse the return of the Baathists (under a new guise, to be sure), who would then deal with the Islamists by shutting down an operation the Mukhabarat thinks they control.

But engaging these activists may not be without cost. Having created a fiction, there is a potential danger of it becoming a reality. Al-Zarqawi may not be the real force behind the anti-US resistance in Iraq, but many now, in Iraq and throughout the Muslim world, believe him to be.

Having created this giant the Mukhabarat may not be able to control it. The real danger in Iraq is not the inevitable defeat of the United States and the interim government of Iyad Allawi, but the fact that the longer it takes for the United States to realise that victory cannot be achieved, the more emboldened the Islamists become.

Right now, the Mukhabarat controllers of the al-Zarqawi network think themselves clever as they watch the US military play into their hands through the destruction of Falluja, and the futile search for a phantom menace.

But the tragedy that is the war in Iraq is far from over, and it may very well be that it is al-Zarqawi and his followers, and not the Baathist Mukhabarat, who will have the last laugh. And, as always, it will be the people of Iraq who will pay the price.

Scott Ritter was a senior UN arms inspector in Iraq between 1991 and 1998. He is now an independent consultant.

The opinions expressed here are the author's and do not necessarily reflect the editorial position or have the endorsement of Aljazeera

english.aljazeera.net



To: TigerPaw who wrote (15084)1/5/2005 1:52:49 AM
From: Raymond Duray  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 20773
 
TSUNAMI: WHAT DID THE U.S. MILITARY KNOW AND WHEN?

AirAmerica's Randi Rhodes has been looking into just this sort of situation. Did 10,000s of people die unnecessarily so that the U.S.'s secret listening stations would not be compromised? It sure looks that way.....

Alert for quake, none for tsuami


Reading the New York Times article, "At Warning Center, Alert for the Quake, None for a Tsunami" (appended below), and thinking of my experience with investigating earthquakes for the US government for almost 22 years and doing research on seismological techniques to monitor underground nuclear explosions, I believe that the US military/CIA had critically useful information about the tsunami while it was in progress.Based on seismic (earthquake) data alone, any tsunami expert would know that a magnitude 8+ submarine thrust (subduction) event like the 2004 Magnitude 9.0 Northern Sumatra Earthquake would have a good possibility of generating a tsunami (see appended article). The US has a very large military base on the island of Diego Garcia

in the middle of the Indian Ocean where they develop and test the "Son of Star Wars" anti-ballistic missile system, among other activities. Somebody in the military must have been aware of tsunami hazard to the island due to the proximity of the southwestern Pacific archipelago. The US Navy and CIA undoubtedly have many sea-bottom sensors in the Indian Ocean for detecting submarines, undersea nuclear explosions, and earthquakes & tsunamis. I am sure that US military/CIA knew the tsunami was in progress but they did not relay this information to the countries at risk because the info was "CLASSIFIED"."One of the few places in the Indian Ocean that got the message of the quake was Diego Garcia, a speck of an island with a United States Navy base, because the Pacific warning center's contact list includes the Navy. Finding the appropriate people in Sri Lanka or India was harder."

<http://www.nytimes.com/2004/12/28/science/28warn.html>

(see appended article)... so what happened to Diego Garcia? What damage did it sustain from the tsunami? Were emergency measures taken before the waves hit?The justification for not warning the countries that have been so devastated by the tsunami is that the US authorities don't know who to call in these countries -- how do they expect to fight the "War on Terrorism" or shoot down a nuke ICBM -- are they really that incompetent? Is this the same kind of lapse that occurred on 9/11 in the two hours between the time when the first plane crashed into the World Trade Center and the time when fourth plane "crashed" in Pennsylvania?Cruising the web today, I picked up the beginning of a monumental international blame-game and ass-covering exercise with respect to the failure to issue tsunami warnings -- it was even suggested by the remarks of Australian Foreign Minister Downer who spends much of his time prevaricating about the situation in Iraq and the reasons for the Australian participation in that fiasco.There is a good possibility that the US military/CIA let tens of thousands drown rather than "compromise" the sources of their "intelligence".



To: TigerPaw who wrote (15084)1/5/2005 8:48:28 AM
From: Suma  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 20773
 
But the General who spoke about numbers said there were only 5000 insurgents. We could take them on easily....