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To: Elroy Jetson who wrote (26459)	1/6/2005 10:04:36 AM
From: Oblomov	Respond to of 306849

"Matriculado" is my term for those who have gained work in the US by way of a Mexican government issued ID card (called a "matricula consular") at their consulates to their nationals living in the US. I don't know if the term is politically correct or not. But just calling them immigrants doesn't quite capture the notion of their quasi-legal status that, as you say, no one seems willing to discuss. courier-journal.com

To: Elroy Jetson who wrote (26459)	1/6/2005 2:09:12 PM
From: Arv	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 306849

Elroy, I'm mostly just a lurker and find your posts consistently well-thought out. But when you write "When people cannot meet the requirements to emigrate to a place like Europe or Australia they have to settle for America." -- I get the feeling you are letting "homerism" get in the way. In my experience, USA is the place to emigrate to bar none even today. I personally know of only one individual (in recent times) who picked Europe or Australia over USA. [Of course, I'm only speaking of working stiffs in high-tech.] Btw, the outlier-individual went to Australia from California for reasons quite disconnected with work/economy. The ones that make for Europe and Australia today (from India and China in particular) are the ones who couldn't get a shot in USA. It is certainly possible that the ones that go to Australia are the lucky ones.