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To: ravenseye who wrote (1755)1/7/2005 1:27:46 AM
From: scion  Respond to of 5425
 
What odds are you offering sunshine?

I bet there has been more information found, and I feel confident that Mr Breen knows more than you!

I think you've finally found your metier - making book on what people may or may not know. Have you ever thought of a career as an opiniaster ?



To: ravenseye who wrote (1755)1/7/2005 1:46:56 AM
From: Bill Ulrich  Respond to of 5425
 
Nice!

"If you want to consider May 2002 information more relevant than what has been reported about the current trial which started November 2004, that is your choice. I however put more weight on what the jury has heard, not what was written in a news article over 2 years ago. A lot can happen in two years. I mean really, if tony wasn't scared of being found guilty he surely wouldn't have used a fake id last year April resulting in his current living conditions in a detention center compared to his $2.2 million dollar home. What the jury has heard, and how they process what they heard is what matters. If I were you, I'd be concerned if more indictments are handed down. You seem to want to go in devious circles, putting more faith in the past than current events better known as the trial. I will end your tail chasing by again mentioning my comments and what ERIC DASH reported about 11/09/04:
Judge Raymond J. Dearie is who said "This case has nothing to do with terrorism," he said to the jury in a planned set of instructions. "You will hear no evidence that Mr. Elgindy or others were involved in 9/11." That doesn't mean there isn't evidence! Prior to the judges instructions Mr. Cleveland had responded to Kenneth Breen that the investigation was related to "terrorism," after being asked about a mid-September 2001 F.B.I. investigation into Mr. Elgindy. ERIC DASH also reported
...Mr. Cleveland was allowed to continue with his testimony, recounting how he learned that Mr. Elgindy was a subject in a criminal investigation. Mr. Cleveland said that Jeffrey A. Royer, an F.B.I. agent who was the source of that information and a defendant in the case, told him that investigators were looking into $6 million that Mr. Elgindy had liquidated from two brokerage companies, Charles Schwab and Salomon Smith Barney, shortly before Sept. 11.
Mr. Royer also relayed information that the government was examining the money Mr. Elgindy gave to Mercy International, which Mr. Breen described as a "Middle Eastern charity."
Mr. Royer promised to "keep an eye" on the case, Mr. Cleveland testified, "and as new things came out, he would let me know." ....
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Mr Breen the prosecutor must have some solid information to say money was given to Mercy International, and specifically stated it was a MIDDLE EASTERN charity. I personally wouldn't give more credence to a news item dated May 2002 than current court records. That is a big gap of time, May 2002 to November 2004, and I bet there has been more information found, and I feel confident that Mr Breen knows more than you!"



To: ravenseye who wrote (1755)1/7/2005 2:11:11 AM
From: Louie_al-Arouri  Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 5425
 
Don't confuse this mob with facts and chronology. Last night we learned Mitchell & Truthseker support al-Qadi's claims his Mercy International has no relation to the Mercy Intl. that financed the 1998 East African Embassy bombings in Kenya. Mitchell & Truthseeker have posted as advocates of Qadi's "Mercy International-USA" - that it is a completely different Mercy (USA), that represents apple-pie, fried chicken & baseball and that Mercy-USA is the org that Tony donated too. That is, when they're not saying Tony didn't make any donation at all.
They just can't decide which way to go, with al-Qadi, who claims his pristine Mercy-USA is only a "sister" to that other EVIL Mercy International, or with Tony, the self-proclaimed agent of a KLA operated al Qeada Humanitarian Relief org (MTHO), who claims he made NO DONATION at all.
Breen, the AUSA says the Mercy International Tony donated to was "a Middle East charity".
Truthseeker assures us that al-Qadi's Mercy, that blew up that Embassy in '98, isn't the same Mercy al-qadi formed as a sister org after the bombings. Nah, its "Mercy-USA". Who cares that its operated under an assumed name or that BReen (& Cantor Fitzgerald) cite a SAUDI CHARITY NAMED MERCY, Truthseeker and Mitchell tell us that Mercy-USA is as much red, white & blue as Tony's KLA operarted relief front in the Balkans. Who cares about Mercy International Relief’s Nairobi branch working with al-Qaeda and issuing identity cards to bin Laden and Ali Mohammed (Didn't Tony have one of those cards too?).

In August 18, 1998, eleven days after al Qaeda bombed the U.S. embassies in East Africa, Hassan Bahfzallah, the secretary of the "Investment Committee" for IIRO in Saudi Arabia was inquiring about IIRO investments and the activities of Suliman al-Ali. al-Ali and the IIRO funneled millions of dollars to a Chicago-based chemical company run by a director of Mercy International. The company was raided by the FBI in 1997 amidst allegations of terrorism support and suspicious chemical compounds. In the two years before the embassy attacks, al-Ali disclosed that he sent almost $200,000 to Mercy International in Canada, a branch of the Michigan-based Mercy International that Jeff Mitchell & Truthseeker swear are true red, white & blue and not involved with that dirty terrorist Mercy Intl..
In 1998, before his petitioning of the US government to unfreeze the assets of the Holy Land Foundation, a front for financing terrorism, Khaled Elgindy was calling to lift sanctions in Iraq with the IIRO.

"Sanctions are not the clean alternative to war that we thought they were," said Khalid Elgindy, who delivered humanitarian aid to Iraqis in May with a U.S. group called the IIRO".

So here we have Tony's brother with IIRO in 1998 (East Africa Embassy bombings) & Federal prosecutors identifying several companies and charities that served as fronts to aid the terrorists that bombed the East African embassy including Mercy International, to which Tony DID (Breen) or did NOT (MItchell & Truthseeker) donate to.
Feds cite records showing that Osama bin Laden's satellite phone was in contact with the mobile phone of Mercy director Ahmad Sheik Adam; "and Bin Laden lieutenant and key orchestrator Wadih el Hage testified that he kept his files at the Mercy International offices in Kenya. In his Rolodex were found the business cards of two Mercy officers in Kenya and one in the United States. Also, Mercy International receipts dated July 24, 1998, make mention of "getting the weapons from Somalia." Mitchell & Truthseeker advocate the al-Qadi red, white & blue Mercy-USA theory - or, on whatever given day, the TONY DID NOT MAKE ANY DONATION theory.

Keep up the good posts Ravenseye! Power to the people. ;0)