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To: Tenchusatsu who wrote (214383)1/7/2005 12:06:34 PM
From: Alighieri  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1574269
 
The human condition might tell you that there is no God, but it tells me something completely different ... that we need God.

Actually it does not tell me that there is no God...it tells me that humanity has distorted his image and bent his teachings to fit his (man's) purpose and divide the world.

Al



To: Tenchusatsu who wrote (214383)1/7/2005 12:10:47 PM
From: Road Walker  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1574269
 
re: The human condition might tell you that there is no God, but it tells me something completely different ... that we need God.

How can you argue in one breadth that the great majority of people believe in a God, and in the next breadth argue that because of the dire "human condition" we need God? Logic might suggest that the human condition would be better if we got away from our Gods.

It appears to many conservatives that the current and forthcoming struggle is between people with different Gods. Both sides see the other as barbaric heathens.

John



To: Tenchusatsu who wrote (214383)1/7/2005 12:17:56 PM
From: Alighieri  Respond to of 1574269
 
Here's an example of man's faith at work...no problem killing in dubious wars, but no morning after pill for a raped woman. Al
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Justice Rape Document Blasted for Omission

Thu Jan 6, 5:49 PM ET

White House - AP Cabinet & State

By DAVID CRARY, AP National Writer

NEW YORK - Scores of advocacy groups, including the American Civil Liberties Union (news - web sites) and Planned Parenthood (news - web sites), assailed new Justice Department (news - web sites) guidelines for treating rape victims Thursday because the detailed procedures make no mention of emergency contraception as an option that could spare some women an unwanted pregnancy.



The result is "a glaring omission in an otherwise thorough document," the groups said in a letter sent to Diane Stuart, director of the Justice Department's Office on Violence Against Women.

Gloria Feldt, president of the Planned Parenthood Federation of America, called the omission "a blatant example of politics taking precedence over the emotional and physical health needs of women." Her organization, and other groups, contend that information about emergency contraception was included in an early draft of the guidelines, then removed from the final version because of political concerns.

A Justice Department spokesman, Eric Holland, said Stuart's office had received the protest letter and would "review its contents carefully." The department offered no immediate comment on the specifics of the complaints.

Many major medical groups support the use of emergency contraception, and the American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists recommends that it be offered to all sexual assault victims who are at risk of pregnancy. But many conservative groups contend that use of emergency contraception can be a form of abortion in cases where fertilization has already occurred.

More than 93,000 rapes were reported in the United States last year, according to the FBI (news - web sites), and many more went unreported. Estimates as to how many women became pregnant because of rapes range from 4,000 to 25,000, but advocacy groups say nearly 90 percent of such pregnancies could be prevented if victims had prompt access to emergency contraception.

Commonly known as morning-after pills, emergency contraceptives are a stronger dose of regular birth control pills. They are considered highly effective up to 72 hours after unprotected sex.

The ACLU, in a recent study of 11 states, found that many emergency care facilities do not routinely provide emergency contraception to rape victims. Results varied from lows of 6 percent of facilities in Louisiana and 8 percent in Idaho to highs of 80 percent in New Hampshire and 85 percent in New York.

Some states require hospitals to assist victims in obtaining emergency contraception; other states allow medical personal to withhold such services for reasons of conscience. The Justice Department said the new, first-of-their-kind guidelines were not intended to supersede state policies.

The step-by-step guidelines were released last fall after input from criminal justice and health experts, with the aim of ensuring that victims receive high-quality medical and forensic services.

The 130-page document includes extensive suggestions for coping with the possibility of sexually transmitted disease, but only one sentence on pregnancy prevention: "Discuss treatment options with patients, including reproductive health services."

The protest letter calls for the guidelines to be revised to specify that victims should be offered emergency contraception as routine policy.

"It is time for policy-makers to stop heartlessly ignoring the needs of sexual assault patients," said Louise Melling, director of the ACLU's Reproductive Freedom Project. "There is no excuse for not doing whatever we can to ensure that women can prevent pregnancy."

Among the 205 groups signing the letter were the American Association of University Women, Catholics for a Free Choice, the Episcopal Church USA, NARAL Pro-Choice America, the National Council of Jewish Women and the National Organization for Women (news - web sites).



To: Tenchusatsu who wrote (214383)1/7/2005 1:20:54 PM
From: Alighieri  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 1574269
 
This (Tuesday) morning at 9am, C-SPAN had a live telecast of the 109th Congressional Prayer Service from a church on Capitol Hill. There were some sentiments shared about the recently-passed Bob Matsui and Shirley Chisholm, and, amidst the scripture readings, reminders from a few Congressmen about the Christian foundation of our government. Others spoke of the Asian tsunami tragedy.

Then Tom DeLay gets up to the pulpit, and -- striking a beautiful note in light of the 150,000 dead from the floods referenced by his colleagues -- lets loose with some Matthew 7, beginning at verse 21.

(Many thanks to ben for the heads up on the exact wording, and to DemWatch for directing us to this transcription of the reading and MP3.)

Saith DeLay:

"A reading of the Gospel, in Matthew 7:21 through 27.

Not every one who says to me, "Lord, Lord," will enter the kingdom of heaven; but only the one who does the will of my Father in heaven.

Many will say to me on that day, "Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name? Did we not drive out demons in your name? Did we not do mighty deeds in your name?

"Then I will declare to them solemnly, 'I never knew you: depart from me, you evil doers.'"

Everyone who listens to these words of mine, and acts on them, will be like a wise man, who built his house on a rock:

The rain fell, the floods came, and the winds blew, and buffeted the house, but it did not collapse; it has been set solidly on rock.

And everyone who listens to these words of mine, but does not act on them, will be like a fool who built his house on sand:

The rain fell, the floods came, and the winds blew, and buffeted the house, and it collapsed and was completely ruined."

He finishes reading, says nothing more, and sits back down.