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To: GST who wrote (155528)1/7/2005 3:27:01 PM
From: jlallen  Respond to of 281500
 
If we don't live by them, then espousing them no longer means anything, and that is the sorry state we find ourselves in now

Ugh! Another lie.



To: GST who wrote (155528)1/7/2005 3:55:54 PM
From: michael97123  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 281500
 
IN WW2, we put Japanese Americans in camps. We recovered. In the cold war we had Sen McCarthy and we recovered. And oh yeah we had prominent americans fall for Stalin is a good guy bs and we survived that as well. It is a pendelum and in the US Thank God, it always swings back before it gets too far out of whack, so far anyway.



To: GST who wrote (155528)1/7/2005 4:55:18 PM
From: Ish  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 281500
 
<<When it comes to torture and unilateral invasion, it is not a matter of a pendulum -- it is a matter of principle.>>

What about the insurgents? Unilateral invasion? How about the insurgent that parks a car bomb and kills 20 Iraqis? Do you hold them at any fault or do you lay those acts at Bush's feet? Torture? I'd rather have underwear on my head rather than having it sawed off.