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To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (155647)	1/8/2005 4:46:43 PM
From: GST	Respond to of 281500

World opinion rallied around the US post-9/11 -- it took the extreme right wing position that Bush took on Iraq to alienate most everybody on the planet outside the US -- i guess the whole world must be knee-deep in "Lefties".

To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (155647)	1/8/2005 6:30:28 PM
From: epicure	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

You must have fallen in a memory hole yourself if you do not remember all the votes in congress that gave bipartisan support to Bush. The democrats and the left were far too lenient with Bush after 9/11, and they gave him the rope to make the mistakes which we all hang for now. Had the left put up more of a fight in congress, we would not have made many of the mistakes which have taken us down the path we travel now. I remember this bipartisan spirit quite clearly, because I thought it was leading the opposition to rubber stamp Bush's proposals, no matter how stupid they were. "As recently as January 2002, the statement, "We are not Republicans and Democrats, we are Americans" had a ring of truth to it. At that time, Bush enjoyed a 63 percent job-approval rating among Democrats, a 78 percent approval rating among independents, and an astonishing 97 percent approval rating among Republicans. By last month, he had lost a bit of ground among his own party members, declining to 88 percent approval. But among independents, his approval rating had slid to 55 percent. And among Democrats, his approval rating had dropped to 34 percent." "All that (bipartisanship) was swept aside, at least for awhile, by the attacks of September 11, 2001. Reeling from the devastating blows to the World Trade Center and the Pentagon -- and mindful that a plane that crashed in Pennsylvania was headed toward the Capitol or the White House -- the nation’s political leaders banded together while Americans of all political stripes rallied behind the commander-in-chief." "In a lopsided and bi-partisan congressional vote on October 11, 2002, Bush received authorization to invade Iraq if it did not turn over its presumed arsenal of biological and chemical weapons, as well as what was thought to be its reconstituted nuclear weapons research. Iraq insisted it had no such weapons, and United Nations inspectors could not find them. But the President, expressing certainty that Iraq was hiding evidence and convinced that replacing the repressive and violent Baathist regime with a democracy would have positive and far-reaching implications throughout the Middle East, took the nation to war." americanpresident.org ............ Memory holes are funny things Oh wait- by "lots of lefties" did you think I meant "every single lefty"- no Nadine, lots does not mean "every single" it just means lots- a predominance for example, or a large fraction- but it does not mean "the whole".