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To: RetiredNow who wrote (214506)	1/9/2005 4:55:04 PM
From: Raymond Duray	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1572600

mindmeld, Re: Having no organized military to strike is exactly what makes the jihadis powerful. That is absurd on its face and is a paranoid delusion has been discredited time after time. Remember "Plan B" and the "Committe on the Present Danger"? These groups spread their paranoid poison in the 1970s and were completely delusional. The argument that the Soviet Union had a new stealth and invincible submarine was the the fact that we had no proof of its existence! This insane circular logic led to the most wasteful buildup of U.S. military hardware ever, the Reagan Candy Store. And yes, the same delusional paranoids who are propagandizing the small-minded into irrational fears of jihadis are the same malevolent cast of characters who were grandly lying in the 1970s. Richard Perle, Paul Wolfowitz, Dick Cheney, Don Rumsfeld and others have been one of the sickest, mentally deranged groups in American politics for decades. How me the Jihadis WMDs, mindmeld! You can't. They're a joke, a phantom. An illusion. You would do yourself a huge favor to try to get back to reality. I strongly recommend that you read this remarkable review of "The Power of Nightmares" and watch the videos. Hopefully you'll come to your senses about exactly who the enemy of the American people happens to be. And that enemy is in control of the White House. And, your nightmares, which the Bushies cynically manipulate for their own gain. commondreams.org *** Re: They would prefer Iraq descend into chaos, rather than allow democracy to blossom. Again, you suffer from total delusion. Democracy, as any sane person would define it, is the last thing in the world Bush hopes to bring to Iraq. What Bush is bringing is rape, theft, crassness and one-sided corporatism run amok. Again, you'd really do yourself a huge favor by reading about what is really happening in Iraq. And that is that Bush is engorging well-connected Republican businessmen with huge amounts of graft, corruption and self-dealing. Here's a sampling of the real goals in Iraq, democracy be damned: corpwatch.org corpwatch.org *** Re: As far as America's rapacious imperial armies...what evidence do you have of that? That's easy: fallujahinpictures.com For decent, innocent Iraqis, they are suffering an onslaught that is the equivalent of a September 11th every month! guardian.co.uk That's 3,000 completely innocent people being MURDERED BY OUR IMPERIAL WAR CRIMINALS every month! * It's insane for you to think that we are in Iraq for the sake of democracy. That's silly. We are there to loot that poor nation and destroy the people so that the entire oil prize will fall into the hands of a tiny number of American corporations who've used the childish patriotism of Americans in a completely cynical fashion. * Re: This is exactly the line of reasoning that worries me most. Many Americans have been lulled into thinking the jihadis aren't dangerous and that we can pull back into fortress America First of all, I resent the imagery of "fortress America". What a load of indecency. Your paranoid streak comes out again. I did not grow up in a fortress. I grew up in a nation where we enjoyed civil liberties, the right to speak our mind, the right to resist bad and evil government such as we faced in my youth with the despicable Viet Nam Imperial aggression. Today, we live in a world where the unwary (perhaps such as yourself) fail to see the very values that this nation was founded upon being eroded by such odious and un-American legislation such as the USA PATRIOT Act and the new Security Czar legislation. This latest assault on America runs to 3,000 pages which CONGRESS DID NOT DEBATE IN ANY SERIOUS FASHION. And yet that new bill further erodes our civil liberties and the very things that made America great. And did so for the sake a paranoid imperial police state. I say it is time for us to fight for a decent America, one that is not consuming its children, its treasury and it future for the sake of a handful of rapacious CEOs on a mission from HELL trying to satisfy an insatiable greed. It's time for America to say that the incurion into Iraq is one of the most shameful episodes in our history. BRING THE TROOPS HOME NOW! IMPEACH BUSH NOW!