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To: Bill Ulrich who wrote (94494)	1/10/2005 6:04:57 AM
From: JDN	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 793790

I got a funny Atomic Submarine story, in fact I have two. #1--MANY years ago one of the first nuclear powered subs came to PORT CANAVERAL. There is a rock jetty going out from the port and I often fished from it. My brother and I were fishing and suddenly I hooked A WHALE. I had a very heavy rod and it bent double. I screamed I GOT A BIG ONE and the line was BURNING off the reel. As I fought to land that MONSTER up POPPED the nuclear powered sub with my hook in its conning tower. haha. I always told everyone, I am the only person in the world that has ever bagged a nuclear powered sub. haha. #2--Years later but still nearly 30 years ago I was fishing outside of Port Everglades in my boat when UP POPPED another nuclear sub headed into port I guess for shore leave. UNBEKNOWNST to me the navy is very protective of its subs and puts a protective net around them once they are berthed and no on is allowed to board without permission. I didnt know that and they hadnt yet opened the hatch. I race over there and TIE MY BOAT up to this sub intending to BOARD when the hatch opens. Needless to say THEY WERE SURPRISED. But did they ever give me HELL. haha. JDN

To: Bill Ulrich who wrote (94494)	1/10/2005 6:19:02 AM
From: Sig	Respond to of 793790

The average depth of the Pacific is about 14,000 feet. Man that is one marvelous amount ot water, considering the surface area. Did someone say we are running out of water ? Must not have heard of desalination plants. Modern subs may operate at a depth of 800 to 1500 feet. robse.dk Which says nothing about the accident, but he could not have hit anything head on at speed with a ship that big. Count them very lucky Sig

To: Bill Ulrich who wrote (94494)	1/10/2005 7:45:17 AM
From: Oral Roberts	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 793790

Forward pinging with active sonar would give a return off an underwater mountain but subs if lucky will never ever, ever use active sonar. Might just as well take out a newspaper ad and tell the world where you are. The whole job of a sub revolves around not being detected and one ping with active sonar and every listening ship or sub within 50 miles will know where you are after your ping. We navigate by accurate charts and good gyros that know exactly where we are. Every time this happens it's a pretty sure bet they were not where they thought they were.