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To: cosmicforce who wrote (93127)	1/10/2005 9:12:16 PM
From: epicure	Respond to of 108807

That's just as valid as my guess

To: cosmicforce who wrote (93127)	1/10/2005 9:16:34 PM
From: epicure	Respond to of 108807

I find this- which makes me think the old bitch does have something to do with civilization: "What first strikes the hearer here is the total unsingingness of these lines as the Gautier smoothness is mechanically undercut by flat prosaicisms. Leavis, who found Mauberley to be Pound’s masterpiece, speaks of the verse as “extraordinarily subtle”; Kenner, otherwise differently affected toward Pound, also praises the poem as a “technical marvel.” I see rather an absence of rhythmic enactment and the growing presence of a bullying rhetoric. Already in poem III “we choose a knave or an eunuch/ To rule over us,” modern democracy being inferior to ancient tyranny; by IV and V soldiers are dying “For an old bitch gone in the teeth,/ For a botched civilization,// Charm, smiling at the good mouth/ Quick eyes gone under earth’s lid.” The easy generalizations of the first two lines are only partially redeemed by the rhythmic life of the last two. " newcriterion.com That's not to say the critic who wrote this is right, but it's one way to look at it. You probably have never read the complete work- and I didn't remember it (but I have read it), but you know how the subconscious is- it probably helped me out when I tried to interpret it.