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To: GST who wrote (155929)1/11/2005 9:57:50 AM
From: michael97123  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 281500
 
Killing people feeds terrorism and does not get at its roots.

add indiscriminately and you are certainly correct. And that has happened in iraq because although we try like hell not to in general war these things are likely. However Iraqi terrorists as pointed out by Brooks today in the NYTimes represent only a small portion of the population. The jihadists are from without and the baath/sunni/nationalist group are the ones who benefit by the accidents of war.
What strikes me as funny is that elections generally credited as democratic were held in two islamic countries==one occupied by the US and the other by Israel. You think the arab street may be pondering that point at all rather than believing all the arab media crap? The saddest thing for me to contemplates is that in a 95-5 pro dem environment in iraq, the 5%ers have a decent chance of winning in the Triangle and there may be little we can do to prevent it.



To: GST who wrote (155929)1/11/2005 5:16:07 PM
From: one_less  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 281500
 
"We invaded Iraq where terrorism was not a major problem, and we killed a lot of innocent people, and now we have terrorism coming out of ears in Iraq. Killing people feeds terrorism and does not get at its roots."

You may want to take a look at the history of the region. Tribal conflicts, attempts at ethnic cleansing, fundamental religious wars are the norm not the exception.

The rise in terrorism resulted directly from the initiation of Al-Qaida type movements. These were underway and gaining in popularity at an astounding pace without any intervention from us.

I talked to a young Turk in 1998. He told me that when he was a child there were only a few dusty old men that would be seen coming and going from the mosques in Turkey. But by the time he was in his twenties they were packed to overflowing with radical young Turks.

There is a correlation with our military build up and intervention in foriegn affairs but IMO you are making a mistake in attributing cause and effect here.