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Politics : PRESIDENT GEORGE W. BUSH -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Wayners who wrote (668139)	1/11/2005 9:19:31 PM
From: sandintoes	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 769670

The hatred of the MSM is reaching fever pitch. President Bush and his cabinet can do no right...Their breathing bothers the liberals. > 2) MSNBC's Chris Matthews and New York Times reporter Bill Carter, who fretted that it would be a "real loss" if Dan Rather were to leave television news, managed to turn the release of the panel's report on CBS News, which prompted CBS to oust four staffers, into an opportunity to complain about how no one was fired from the Bush administration for using false pretenses to lead the nation into war. Fondly recalling how tough Dan Rather was against President Nixon, Matthews on Monday night complained that "when we found there was no case for the war in terms of weapons of mass destruction, nobody pounded down the door and said don't give us that malarkey. There was no sense of outrage" by journalists. Matthews asked: "How many people have been fired at the White House for failure to get the facts right on weapons of mass destruction and taking us into war under false pretenses?" Carter chimed in: "I think they got Medals of Freedom!" Matthews affirmed, referring to the medals given last month by Bush to Tommy Franks, George Tenet and Paul Bremer: "They got Medals of Freedom!" The relevant exchange toward the end of a 9pm EST Hardball special on Monday night devoted solely to the report about CBS from the independent panel: New York Times reporter Bill Carter, on the phone: "You know what is interesting, you noted earlier how aggressive this guy can be. He was really aggressive with those Presidents. And you're right, we don't seem to see reporters like that anymore. If Dan were to go away and not be on TV anymore it would be a real loss." Chris Matthews: "You know, I wonder, because you know I've been a skeptic as everyone who watches this show knows about the justification for this war with Iraq, and in fact whether it's guide for our country period. And it seems to me no one ever really banged down -- whether it was on Sunday television or weekdays or anytime -- really banged down the door and hit the people hard, and said, 'where's your hard evidence that this guy is a threat to us?' We want hard evidence, not speculation, not conjecture, not history. Hard evidence of today's threat. Nobody really did it. And then when we found there was no case for the war in terms of weapons of mass destruction, nobody pounded down the door and said don't give us that malarkey. There was no sense of outrage, I hate to use a phrase like that, because it's journalism. But nobody seemed to say, 'dammit, where's the truth here. We don't trust you anymore.'" Carter: "I think the reason for that, is what we're seeing with Rather. I mean there is a chorus out there of critics who go after people who have that opinion now. It's much more powerful than it used to be. I think the one thing Mary Mapes completely underestimated here, was what is what was going to happen with this story she didn't have totally nailed. To me it's like -- I was thinking, you know that expression 'suicide by police,' where you wave -- you don't really have a weapon, but you wave it in front of the police and then you get killed? That's kind of what happened to her here." Matthews: "How many people have been fired at the White House for failure to get the facts right on weapons of mass destruction and taking us into war under false pretenses?" Carter: "I think they got Medals of Freedom!" Matthews: "They got medals of freedom! So while you can also complain about this, you got to wonder."