To: Jerry Held who wrote (9078 ) 1/12/2005 10:28:44 AM From: SE Respond to of 88124 Here is another article, which indicates that no one seems to know about the fan's mooning the opposing team's busses. I have never heard of it either, but that does not mean it doesn't happen certainly. Anyway, here is the article... ---------------------------- Looking at Moss' mooning in hindsight Posted: Jan. 11, 2005 Jim Stingl E-MAIL | ARCHIVE Know what bugs me about Randy Moss? The way he scored two touchdowns and sent the Packers to clean out their lockers. And the simulated mooning? Not so much. I know we're supposed to be appalled by his posterior motives, but it's really only offensive when we pretend that men who slam into each other for a living bear the burden of setting a moral example. I thought it was funny in a slightly naughty way when Moss celebrated his second touchdown during Sunday's playoff game by turning his backside to the end zone crowd, bending over and pretending to pull down his pants. No one died or was physically harmed. It's a venial prank. Moss has become Sir Mix-A-Lot with a bush on his head. Advertisement Also amusing was the claim by two enemy head coaches that Green Bay fans started the mooning tradition by routinely aiming their bare butts at the visiting teams' buses as they leave Lambeau Field. Tail baiting, if you will. No one in Green Bay seems to know anything about that. You'd have to peel off a lot of layers to get down to skin during the late-season games. "I've never heard of it being done," said John Carpentier, a superfan and Packers memorabilia dealer. "That was created to rationalize his actions." Jerry Watson, owner of the Stadium View bar and knower of all things green and gold, said he would have heard of this practice if it exists. "Randy Moss is trying to market Randy Moss. He's an idiot, but he's marketing himself pretty well. These are millionaire children in adult bodies," Watson said. Sports provides us with a diversion from real life, and the silly diversions within sports keep us buzzing long after the games. Moss gave us Packers fans a way to redirect our anger away from the final numbers on the scoreboard. We're in denial that our Super Bowl hopes have ended up where the sun don't shine. It was appropriate that Moss evoked moon imagery since there was a crater where the Packers' pass defense was supposed to be most of the season. And the 6 points we were favored by on Sunday turned out to be weightless. The league is talking about cracking down and spanking Moss with a fine, maybe $5,000, for shaking his hindquarter in the fourth quarter. Not much punishment there. Moss could pull that amount out of his, er, pocket. TV announcer Joe Buck strongly condemned Moss for contaminating the Fox airwaves. Buck apparently doesn't watch much of the rest of Fox's randy lineup. This was pretty tame stuff in comparison. I was more offended by the lingering camera shot of Moss earlier in the game when he taunted Packers fans by telling them to look at the "(exceedingly bad word involving mothers) scoreboard" showing the Minnesota Vikings ahead. Makes me think he wasn't reared that well. More and more, I get the impression that the antagonism between pro players and fans is a two-way street and an interactive source of enjoyment for both camps. What Moss did to har-ass the Packers faithful is a long way from climbing the stands to slug a beverage-tosser. Years ago, Ty Cobb was an excellent baseball player and a jerk. Moss is an excellent football player and a butthead. Guys like that add drama to the game and help fill the seats with big-mouth fans. They thrive on our disapproval. So go ahead, this time at least, and turn the other cheek.