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To: michael97123 who wrote (156067)	1/12/2005 3:26:12 PM
From: Noel de Leon	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

Just skimmed the site you claim to be a 911 denial site. Couldn't find denials, just questions and a reference to another site which shows a time line of events and includes pictures of the 911 attacks. Hardly a denial. Questions such as where were the airplane parts at the Pentagon attack? are asked and not answered. Perhaps you can show where the denial of 911 is. But it is not relevant to call the site a 911 denial site in order to discredit the information because the information is just that, a collection of facts which can be found many places. These facts have not been refuted and as such they stand independently of where they are found. Claiming that the facts have to be set in context is only fair if one is discussing the facts. I was showing that Nadine was playing fast and loose with the truth.

To: michael97123 who wrote (156067)	1/12/2005 4:38:20 PM
From: Nadine Carroll	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

Noel keeps proving my point by reprinting the same lovingly compiled list of all the Stern Gang attacks, with a few Irgun entries, as "proof" of terrorism of the Haganah. I never denied that Irgun used terrorist tactics, just said that most of their tactics would not be called terrorist today since their targets were military. As for the Stern Gang attacks, they have all been polished to a high sheen by repeated handling, for there were not very many of them so they get listed over and over again. Of course, there is no mention of the Mufti or his cousin Abdel Khader Husseini, or their activities during the period before and after the Partition vote. Nor do the Arab armies who attacked in May 1948 exist. All airbrushed away. It's really like a recitation of the horrible terrorist crimes of the US in bombing Berlin during the 1940s, without mentioning that there was a war going on at the time.

To: michael97123 who wrote (156067)	1/12/2005 5:09:41 PM
From: marcos	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 281500

You cannot deny zionist terrorism, there is no point in trying, as the news is out already ... here, let's try googling with 'zionist terrorism' - google.com '... about 250,000 hits' When you say 'Of course israelis did bad things but it has to be put in context.', you can as easily replace 'israelis' with 'indigenous' and have the statement remain equally true and relevant ... notwithstanding the fact that far more indigenous have died in this struggle than have israelis, that it was the indigenous who were having their lands taken from them Going back quite a few posts in your exchange with Noel, he has consistently avoided ad hominem argument, while you have not ... ahem ... you can do better, michael ..... cheers