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To: Suma who wrote (26256)1/13/2005 10:32:23 AM
From: Selectric II  Respond to of 90947
 
That seems like a bad "analogy." Not even close to the real situation.

Bush relied on others -- experts -- from several different countries for intelligence.

A closer analogy to your faulty surgical one might be a case where one physician -- a highly specialized and expert diagnostician misdiagnosed a pre-cancerous tumor as cancerous, then a different specialist -- the surgeon -- used the diagnostician's pre-operative test results as a reason to go in, but found that the tumor wasn't cancerous and excised it anyway while she was in there, before it became larger and cancerous and killed the patient down the road.

In such a case, not only would you owe the surgeon her well-earned fee, but you'd be greatful to her for closing you up with your organs and life intact. Your issue would be with the faulty diagnosis by the other expert, but not the surgeon.

Just imagine if Iraq had possessed and used WMD's, as all the world's intelligence agencies believed they would. The entire country very well might be a flattened wasteland.

As to your Christianity 101 lecture, it doesn't seem at all relevant to the analogy.



To: Suma who wrote (26256)1/13/2005 2:20:25 PM
From: geode00  Respond to of 90947
 
IMO, ALL fundamentalists aren't worth a wooden nickle. It doesn't matter what their particular belief system is: Christianity, Islam, The Earth is Flat, whatever. The problem is that they believe what some other human has told them is the truth and they don't even try to question it.

Bush's particular form of fundamentalism is that there are elites and there is cannon fodder. The elites are just special and whatever they do is acceptable. This allows him to lie, cheat, steal, kill and lie some more because whatever he does is acceptable. This makes him IMO a sociopath and this is why he can blithely go on vacation and plan glittering parties while people are dying BECAUSE OF HIM.

This has nothing to do with Christianity or any other religion. This has to do with the idea of aristocracy, of the inequality of people, of autocracy and general bullying. The truly stupid thing is how many cannon-fodder types support their own bullying. That is more of a disgrace than even Bush's despicable behavior.

Too few people, too many sheeple.