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To: carranza2 who wrote (156211)	1/14/2005 10:25:07 AM
From: epicure	Respond to of 281500

ok I get where you are coming from.

To: carranza2 who wrote (156211)	1/14/2005 10:30:00 AM
From: michael97123	Respond to of 281500

Excellent post. You say: "This is the larger context of the Iraqi problem, one we cannot ever forget." Agree 100%. We also shouldnt forget on the micro side of things that we need to be flexible in our approach and not pig headed. In a war there are battles galore. Not every one is winnable and we should allow stubborness to get in the way of good policy. Mike

To: carranza2 who wrote (156211)	1/14/2005 10:41:21 AM
From: GST	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

<It is my thesis that we are falling behind in the battle of ideas, where the battle for the allegiance of the mostly moderate Muslims will be fought. If we don't win this battle, future generations are doomed. We owe it to them to win it.> That is why policy is so vitally important. By putting military considerations at the forefront, we have seriously harmed our global leadership position. When we invade unilaterally, and when we brush aside vital legitimizing institutions like the UN and the Geneva Conventions to free ourselves of contraints to act "lawfully" and respect human rights, engaging in torture of Iraqis randomly pulled from their houses at night, we destroy our legitimacy and leadership position in the larger war for hearts and minds.