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Politics : Just the Facts, Ma'am: A Compendium of Liberal Fiction -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Selectric II who wrote (26608)	1/14/2005 5:34:45 PM
From: Oeconomicus	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 90947

the power of holding two contradictory beliefs in one's mind simultaneously, and accepting both of them. ... To tell deliberate lies while genuinely believing in them, to forget any fact that has become inconvenient, and then, when it becomes necessary again, to draw it back from oblivion for just so long as it is needed, to deny the existence of objective reality and all the while to take account of the reality which one denies—all this is indispensably necessary. Even in using the word doublethink it is necessary to exercise doublethink. For by using the word one admits that one is tampering with reality; by a fresh act of doublethink one erases this knowledge; and so on indefinitely, with the lie always one leap ahead of the truth.

To: Selectric II who wrote (26608)	1/14/2005 5:41:34 PM
From: trouthead	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 90947

You are quibbling over the word "Imminent". I grant you that many people have said W said it was an Imminent threat when he never said Imminent. But he did say that Saddam was a threat. A threat worthy of a preemptive strike. I disagree with W on that point. And the facts bear that out. He did not have WMD. His army was pathetic and was wiped away in a few days. What kind of serious threat was he that we couldn't have continued inspections and resolutions until the cows came home? Why is that not a better idea than over a thousand americans dead a many thousands of Iraqis? It is hindsight with which I can say these words with such surety, but that is how we judge actions. With the effect and and results of those actions. The effect has been devastating to many and the results are yet to be determined. jb