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To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (156386)	1/15/2005 6:42:09 PM
From: marcos	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

Consider the tradition you are permitting to guide your thought, that of the prussian junkers who used a legitimate concern of encirclement to turn their society entirely totalitarian militarist ... that's what led directly to the policy of Lebensraum, isn't it .... you are following that policy today Obviously no society of six millions is going to make fundamental change overnight in their very psyche, so your yelling and screaming is quite misplaced .... of course it will start as an idea among a few, gain support as it goes along, it will encounter opposition from the whacko hierarchy too ... but when and if it comes to pass, a true Menschenstaat will be a positive force You will not subjugate the muslim world using tanks and machine guns without committing war crimes, and even then it will be an extremely difficult job, made more difficult by your own hypocrisy so evident in this most recent Whackenstaat .... you seem in this post to be wanting to appear as pragmatic, well pragmatism requires careful cost/benefit analysis - consider how much cost and how little benefit there is for you to be providing wahhabi hate-mongers with a constant stream of legitimate propaganda ammunition ideal for their purpose The start on the road to reason, however, would have huge benefit at low cost, it would consist at first of no more than a clear intention to proceed in that direction ... of course you are not going to open the gates overnight, of course you are going to have laws and police enforcement, it is quite silly of you to state that i suggest otherwise ... i simply recommend that you quit hobbling yourselves with the fundamental flaw in your Whackenstaat, so that you can start to lead instead of trying to dictate, and with good luck and good management you're not still dealing with the same size problem in the next generation, and the generation after that, and the one following, ad infinitum