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Politics : Liberalism: Do You Agree We've Had Enough of It? -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: lorne who wrote (1181)	1/15/2005 8:16:26 PM
From: lorne	Respond to of 224718

CAIR presses Fox TV on Muslim terrorists Islamic group 'encouraged' after meeting, assurance of changes in content of '24' January 14, 2005 By Art Moore Fox television bucked current media convention by portraying terrorists as Muslims in its drama series "24," but a controversial Islamic lobby group that complained about the show now says it is "encouraged" after meeting with network officials and winning concessions and assurances. Fox spokesman Scott Grogin told WorldNetDaily today the network has agreed to the Council on American-Islamic Relations' request to distribute a CAIR public service announcement to network affiliates. But when asked to comment on CAIR's claim that network officials assured the Muslim group they had already removed some aspects of existing episodes "that could potentially be viewed as stereotypical," Grogin refused to comment. Grogin, who was at the meeting, said he had nothing to say aside from stating, "We met with representatives from CAIR on Wednesday and had a very informative and productive meeting, and we look forward to working with them in the future." However, he corrected CAIR's statement that Fox agreed to ask affiliates that the PSA "be aired in proximity to '24.'" Grogin said Fox only agreed to distribute the PSA to affiliates and will make no request as to when, "or even if," it is to air. CAIR said it called for the meeting Wednesday -- which included representatives from CAIR's Southern California office and from the Los Angeles-based Muslim Public Affairs Council -- to "address the depiction of a 'Muslim' family that is at the heart of a terror plot in the popular program." The Washington, D.C.-based group said it was concerned that the portrayal of the family as a terrorist "sleeper cell" may "cast a shadow of suspicion over ordinary American Muslims and could increase Islamophobic stereotyping and bias." CAIR's statement today said that in addition to distribution of the PSAs, "FOX also gave meeting participants assurances that the program will be balanced in its portrayal of Muslims. Network representatives said that they had already reviewed existing episodes and removed some aspects that could potentially be viewed as stereotypical." "We thank Fox for the opportunity to address the Muslim community's concerns and for the willingness of network officials to take those concerns seriously in an atmosphere of mutual respect and cooperation," said CAIR Communications Coordinator Rabiah Ahmed. The show, which has a story line that runs the entire season, is based on 24 hours at a counter-terrorism unit. In its fourth season, this year's story centers on a terrorist sleeper cell planning an attack on the United States. CAIR is a spin-off of the Islamic Association For Palestine, a group identified by two former FBI counter-terrorism chiefs as a U.S. front group for the terrorist group Hamas. Since 9-11, CAIR has seen three of its former employees indicted on federal terrorism charges. Randall Todd "Ismail" Royer was sentenced to 20 years in prison on charges he trained in Virginia for holy war against the United States and sent several members to Pakistan to join Lashkar-e-Taiba, a Kashmiri terrorist group with reported ties to al-Qaida. In a plea bargain, Royer claimed he never intended to hurt anyone but admitted he organized the holy warriors after the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks on the U.S. After his arrest, Royer sought legal counsel from Hamas lawyer Stanley Cohen, who said after 9-11 he would consider serving as a defense lawyer for Osama bin Laden if the al-Qaida leader were captured. Another CAIR figure, Bassem Khafagi, was arrested in January 2003 while serving as the group's director of community relations. The previous December, Ghassan Elashi, the founder of CAIR's Texas chapter, was indicted for financial ties to Hamas leader Musa Abu Marzook. Current CAIR leaders also have made statements in support of Hamas and the domination of the U.S. by Islam. As WorldNetDaily reported, CAIR's chairman of the board, Omar Ahmad, was cited by a California newspaper in 1998 declaring the Quran should be America's highest authority. He also was reported to have said Islam is not in America to be equal to any other religion but to be dominant. worldnetdaily.com

To: lorne who wrote (1181)	1/17/2005 10:02:32 AM
From: cirrus	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 224718

It is good that our dialog has reached some common ground, indicating a mutual respect. IMO the majority of muslims are an untrustworthy lot at best. Surely you don't believe that? The exact same thing was said of Japanese Americans during WWII and resulted in forced internments of tens of thousands of loyal Americans, a stain on America's fabric that is only now beginning to fade. Do you have any Muslims among your friends and associates? I think not. If you did you might better understand the pain and frustration Muslims feel as they observe their beloved America constantly take actions towards Muslims that make little sense and serve only to feed extremism overseas. The thanks from moslums for America's help in Kosovo and Albania was the attack on 9/11.... Seventeen of the nineteen hijackers were Saudi. Osama was a Saudi. The attacks were primarily in retaliation for America's presence in Saudi Arabia and support of the Saudi Royal family, a ruling dynasty he believes corrupt. And Osama is not far off the mark on the corruption part. The situation in Iran today is in part attributable to America's support of a corrupt government, the Shah, until things got so bad the result was an Islamic revolution. ...seems there is already orders from moslum leaders for Americans to get out of Indonisia. The Muslim government of Indonesia is fighting insurgents in the areas devastated by the tsunami. Don't ask me the details, I'm clueless. But both the insurgents and the government declared a truce after the tsunami and welcomed American disaster assistance. However, once the situation has stabilized, once roads have been rebuilt and supplies can reach the affected areas via land, once the immediate health crisis has passed, what is the point in American troops hanging around? The situation is similar to what happens when your neighbor has an unfortunate event, a fire, flood or death in the family. Your immediate assistance is welcome and necessary - but after awhile your presence is seen as an intrusion. Ideally you would have left before that time and left invitations to call if they need anything.