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Politics : Israel to U.S. : Now Deal with Syria and Iran -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: GUSTAVE JAEGER who wrote (6772)	1/17/2005 8:36:07 AM
From: Chas.	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 22250

Hersh is a big deal reporter that would rat out his mother for 5 dollars..........fug em...... we have been on txhe ground in Iran for 3 years, it is common knowledge among SO guys, we have the "On ground" intel....... that is not the issue...it is all politics and mindset...... regards

To: GUSTAVE JAEGER who wrote (6772)	1/18/2005 11:49:42 AM
From: Elmer Flugum	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 22250

Christian Zionism counterpunch.com "Zionism is an ideology of blood and soil and the ideology of even secular Zionism involves "Jewishness" even though there is no racially pure separate group of Jews. The most powerful and numerous group - the Ashkenazi - are ethnically Eastern Europeans from Khazar who converted in the middle ages. It is the Sephardic Jews and Arab and Christian Palestinians - second-class citizens in Israel - who actually share the blood of the original Jews of the Bible. For this reason even while many religious Jews reject Zionism, secular Zionism itself needs religion for its raison d,etre for there is no real tie of blood to which they can otherwise appeal. Among secularists, political Zionists like Theodore Herzl may have once thought of Argentina and Uganda as possible choices for the Jewish people, but after 1905, only Palestine, the Biblical land, was considered. Similarly, cultural Zionism does not conceive of simply a state for the Jews but a Jewish state, one where Hebrew learning, culture, and Judaic studies are central. Even Labor Zionism manages to marry the socialism of the kibbutz movement to Jewish consciousness. You would not know these things from the American media, however, which characterizes Israel as a western liberal democracy in which all citizens are equal before the law and treats Zionism as any other nationalism, tacitly condoning the existence of a "Jewish" race-based state, while nevertheless repudiating the notion of a white or Christian state in America. Charles Krauthammer writes in the Jewish World Review: "Kofi Annan's personal representative in Iraq now singles out the policies of the world's one Jewish state, and the only democratic state in the Middle East, as "the great poison in the region." While the Los Angeles Times even editorializes that "Israel must remain a Jewish state." (Oct 11, 2004) Consider the policies of this bulwark of secularism, human rights, and democracy: Employment, housing, and access to services follows a discriminatory pattern with Ashkenazi Jews from Europe getting the best, Sephardic - Middle Eastern - Jews the next, followed by Moslem, Druze and Christians, many of them the original inhabitants, and at the bottom "Israeli Arabs," that is, Palestinians within the 1948 borders. By the Law of Return, Israel must accommodate any Jews from anywhere who might at any time migrate to Israel but cannot accommodate the indigenous Palestinian population which fled Israeli terror in 1948 if they wished to return. Israeli identity cards can list the official ethnicity of a person - Jewish, Arab, Druze ... - but not the nationality - Israeli. Since 1967 to date, Israel has arbitrarily detained over 630,000 Palestinians. In 1989 alone, Israel detained 50,000 Palestinians, representing 16% of the entire male population of the West Bank and Gaza Strip between the ages of 14 and 55. By contrast, that same year, out of a total African population of 24 million in South Africa, no more than 5,000 or 0.2% were detained for security offenses under apartheid. Palestinians have the highest rate of incarceration in the world - approximately 20 percent of Palestinians in the occupied territories have, at one time, been arbitrarily detained by Israel."