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To: Mary Cluney who wrote (95723)	1/18/2005 10:38:47 AM
From: DMaA	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 793817

When do you expect to see women in the NFL?

To: Mary Cluney who wrote (95723)	1/18/2005 11:43:29 AM
From: Lane3	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 793817

What was Dr. Summers thinking? I can't imagine. Given the current scenario at Harvard, he certainly had to understand that there would be controversy. <<A Harvard spokesperson declined to comment on Monday, or to release the transcript of Summers's remarks. Richard Freeman, who invited the Harvard president to speak at the conference, said Summers's comments were intended to provoke debate, and some women over-reacted. "Some people took offence because they were very sensitive," said Dr Freeman, an economist at Harvard and the London School of Economics. "It does not seem to me insane to think that men and women have biological differences." During Summers's presidency, the number of tenured jobs offered to women has fallen from 36% to 13%. Last year, only four of 32 tenured job openings were offered to women. - Guardian Unlimited © Guardian Newspapers Limited 2005 >> Is it possible for a woman to become the best marathoner in the world some time in the near future? I don't know how useful it is to focus on an athletic example. That is the area where men and women have the most conspicuous differences, far greater than in math. I do recall reading, though, a while back that women are actually better suited to endurance sports so if a woman is ever to be the best in the world, the marathon would be a likely place. On one side of the issue we have the cavemen, who are attached to the notion that women are inferior. On the other side we have a species of groupist that believes that all result disparities are the result of discrimination. Neither is reasonable. Individuals of both sexes vary across every range based on physical, cultural, and personal variations so individuals can only be fairly assessed as individuals.

To: Mary Cluney who wrote (95723)	1/18/2005 7:54:20 PM
From: TimF	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 793817

Is it possible for elite women marathon runners to compete with men in a few years time? Is it possible for a woman to become the best marathoner in the world some time in the near future? Is it possible, I suppose but the chances are extremely low. Men have been running marathons for more than 2000 years. Women have started to run marathons in less than 50 years. 50 years ago the difference between elite men and women finishing the marathon was about 45 minutes. Today, the difference is less than 15 minutes. Which shows that a lot of the difference 50 years ago was the fact that fewer woman trained intensively for marathons. Maybe we can even go further along this trend and have the difference be ten minutes, but it is very unlikely to ever be zero. There are physical difference between men and women. Men have a higher percentage of lean mass and a different hip angle than men. The later example of the NFL is even a more obvious one. Outside genetic engineering I don't think you are going to have female pro-bowl defensive ends. Tim