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To: Soumen Barua who wrote (47651)	1/19/2005 5:48:50 PM
From: Skywatcher	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 50167

George W BUSH being THE PRIME EXAMPLE..... speaking to Jesus and starting one of the most DESTRUCTIVE and UNJUSTIFIED WARS OF ALL TIME.... the ultimate hypocrite that George CC

To: Soumen Barua who wrote (47651)	1/20/2005 10:24:17 AM
From: Thomas A Watson	Respond to of 50167

By definition, religious.. Having or showing belief in and reverence for God or a deity. The logical interpretation of the word religious clearly shows any person "Having or showing belief in and reverence for God or a deity" is religious. For example Soumen Barua has suggested in his post that it believes in a deity and Satan. That would qualify as religious. The ideas you suggest concerning what is the hearts and minds others and an opinion on what God would not do, does also suggest a confused and quite ignorant mind. I am a Catholic, I can tell you that I have no knowledge of what you call any mass worshiping and chanting. There are several ceremonies in the Church where many members come together to share in prayer and give thanks and remember God's goodness. In general I would say if Soumen Barua claimed to have real any knowledge of religions, I would call Soumen Barua a faker. That conclusion is based upon an analysis of Soumen Barua's post.

To: Soumen Barua who wrote (47651)	1/20/2005 6:21:02 PM
From: IQBAL LATIF	Respond to of 50167

<All religions are fakes and prophets were con artists.> Half of humanity is actively involved in pursuit of religion, in my humble opinion pissing in the mosque creates worst of rioting, it is better to allow people their freedom of obtaining solace whatsoever way it may be! Any religion that encourages beheadings and wanton aggression comes definitely under your broad definition, but religions and congregation that promote harmony and brethren ship between humanity are serving some good purpose. In areas of extreme poverty, a lot of social balance is maintained by religion, it serves as a tranquiliser for poverty stricken people who tend to think that denial of worldly goods presently ensures great bounties after death, that contentment does help maintain some semblance of order in societies marked with extreme poverty. For me it is separation of religion from state that is most important, praying for me is a sign of thankfulness to God and not expression of religious attitude. However, religion has its own therapeutic side too, it was nice to see in today Senate lunch during prayers and benediction all great liberals’ heads like Clinton and Kennedy were bowed with same fervour as Bush.

To: Soumen Barua who wrote (47651)	1/22/2005 2:29:30 PM
From: IQBAL LATIF	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 50167

<Just because someone worships god does not make that person religious.> "I came -- though the child of entirely irreligious (Jewish) parents -- to a deep religiousness, which, however, reached an abrupt end at the age of twelve. Through the reading of popular scientific books I soon reached the conviction that much in the stories of the Bible could not be true. The consequence was a positively fanatic orgy of freethinking coupled with the impression that youth is intentionally being deceived by the state through lies; it was a crushing impression. Mistrust of every kind of authority grew out of this experience, a skeptical attitude toward the convictions that were alive in any specific social environment -- an attitude that has never again left me." - ALBERT EINSTEIN - 1879-1955

To: Soumen Barua who wrote (47651)	1/27/2005 8:39:04 AM
From: PROLIFE	Respond to of 50167

you are sad............ and lost

To: Soumen Barua who wrote (47651)	1/27/2005 3:27:32 PM
From: IQBAL LATIF	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 50167

<All religions are fakes and prophets were con artists.> I think you should read this book, I have a lot of time and I thought you may find some help in this book to reinforce your ideas, the claims that pagan ideas were added on by Emperor Constantine (who was baptised only on his death bed) within mainstream Christianity are mind-boggling. The Da Vinci Code by Dan Brown is a good book to read contrary opinion away from mainstream an open discussion is also great.; A summary and book review The Da Vinci Code is a novel written by American author Dan Brown and first published in 2003 that has become a worldwide bestseller with over nine million copies being sold. The plot of this book concerns the attempts of Dr. Robert Langdon, Professor of Religious Symbology at Harvard University, to solve the murder of Jacques Saunière, the curator of the Louvre Museum in Paris, after Saunière's body had been found inside the Louvre naked with a cryptic message written on his torso in his own blood and posed like Leonardo da Vinci's famous drawing, Vitruvian Man:- The plot continues in ways that combine the detective thriller and conspiracy theory genres with Saunière's murder being attibuted to powerful forces that wish to preserve ancient secrets relating to Jesus having been married to Mary Magdalene and having been the father of their child. The interpretation of hidden messages inside Da Vinci's famous works, including the Mona Lisa and The Last Supper, figure prominently in the solution to the mystery. The solution itself is found to be intimately connected with the possible location of the Holy Grail and to a mysterious society called the Priory of Sion, as well as to the Knights Templar. The Catholic organization Opus Dei also figures prominently in the plot. It transpires that Saunière was in fact the secret head of the Priory of Sion - an organisation that was devoted to preserving certain secrets about the location of the Holy Grail. The cryptic messages on his body being his own dying attempts to leave an important message to his grand-daughter, Sophie Neveu, who was employed by the French state as a cryptologist. According to the novel, the secrets of the Holy Grail, as kept by the Priory of Sion, are as follows: The Holy Grail is not a physical chalice, but a woman, namely Mary Magdalene, who helped to carry the bloodline of Christ into the following ages. Mary Magdalene was of royal descent (through the Jewish House of Benjamin) and was the wife of Jesus, of the House of David. That she was a prostitute was a slander invented by the Catholic Church to obscure their true relationship. At the time of the Crucifixion, she was pregnant. After the Crucifixion, she fled to Gaul, where she was sheltered by the Jews of Marseilles. She gave birth to a daughter, named Sarah. The bloodline of Jesus and Mary Magdalene became the Merovingian dynasty of France. The French expression for the Holy Grail, San gréal, actually is a play on Sang réal, which literally means "royal blood". The Grail relics consist of the documents that testify to the bloodline, as well as the actual bones of Mary Magdalene. Sophie Neveu and her brother are descendants of the original bloodline of Jesus and Mary Magdalene (their last name was changed to hide their ancestry). The existence of the bloodline was the secret that was contained in the documents discovered by the Crusaders after they conquered Jerusalem in 1099. The Priory of Sion and the Knights Templar were organized to keep the secret. The Da Vinci Code has been criticised by many scholars but it has undoubtedly helped to spur widespread popular interest in certain theories concerning the legend of the Holy Grail and the role of Mary Magdalene in the history of Christianity. Saunière's character may to some extent have been based on Bérenger Saunière - a real person who was extensively mentioned in a book entitled Holy Blood, Holy Grail. This work was written by three BBC producers named Michael Baigent, Henry Lincoln, and Richard Leigh and itself became a controversial best-seller after its publication in 1982. A chief character in the Da Vinci Code is one Sir Leigh Teabing who is depicted as being the British Royal Historian, a Knight of the Realm, and a Grail scholar. Sir Leigh Teabing's name appears to be formed of Leigh's surname and an anagram of Michael Baigent's surname. Holy Blood,Holy Grail, is a book which espouses very similar beliefs to those attributed to Sir Leigh Teabing in the Da Vinci Code.