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To: one_less who wrote (94116)	1/20/2005 10:27:13 AM
From: Oeconomicus	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 108807

It's simple, Jewel. It was a joke at the expense of people she reflexively disagrees with, so it is automatically funny. It matters not whether she would ban one of us - HAS banned one of us - maybe both - simply for laughing at a joke at her expense. That's just wrong, regardless of the quality of the underlying humor. BTW, hypocrisy is only a manifestation of insecurity.

To: one_less who wrote (94116)	1/20/2005 10:37:36 AM
From: Oeconomicus	Respond to of 108807

Could men, women actually be . . . different? James Lileks - Newhouse News Service Thursday, January 20, 2005 ajc.com ''Math is hard!'' Barbie once said, and apparently Lawrence Summers agrees. He's the president of Harvard, and finds himself in hot water for remarks made at a National Bureau of Economic Research conference. He blamed the relatively low numbers of women in math and science on a lack of natural ability. Oops. If he'd been a TV preacher or Cabinet member, this would be fodder for contemptuous editorials, gleeful cartoons, Letterman lists and the usual oil slick of liberal scorn. But he's one of the good guys, so he won't be boiled in oil. Just dipped in tepid pitch. What controversial ideas did he confess? Said The Associated Press: Summers ''cited as an example one of his daughters, who as a child was given two trucks in an effort at gender-neutral upbringing. Yet he said she named them 'daddy truck' and 'baby truck' as if they were dolls. ''It was during such comments that [one attendee] got up and left.'' Good heavens. People still persist in this gender-neutral nonsense? They give a boy a Barbie, hoping it will awaken long-buried nurturing instincts. ''After he's learned how to coordinate her outfits, we can introduce little Skyler to the Easy-Bake Oven, and cure some hemp.'' And so forth, until he graduates with a degree in education and peace studies and takes a teaching job . . . that would otherwise have gone to a woman. Hmm. Well, fine; by then our daughter will be either a structural engineer or a jackhammer operator. It'll all work out. Work out it will, but not the way the parents intend. The boy will bend Barbie in half and pretend she's a pistol, and run outside to play Cowpersons and Indigenous Americans. Give a girl a GI Joe, and 10 minutes later Joe's sitting stiffly at a small table with the Velveteen Rabbit and a Polly Pocket doll, having tea. That said, Summers misspoke. Women do not lack ''natural ability.'' It's more likely they lack natural interest. Not all. But many, perhaps most. It's quite possible --- bear with us, this is brave stuff --- that gender roles actually spring from innate differences between men and women. They've become ossified over the years, creating social constructs and artificial barriers. It's ridiculous to assume that all women want to stay at home in a nice Donna Reed dress, vacuuming in pearls. But it's equally preposterous to assume that all girls have the same interests as boys, and would join the Marines or take mind-grinding computer programming classes if only the big mean patriarchy didn't wag its finger and say ''go do something pink.'' Perhaps there's a reason most women get degrees in social sciences, teaching, law, journalism and similar fields: It's what they really want to do. It's not as if school administrators chuckle indulgently when females apply to hard science departments: ''Oh, don't worry your pretty little head about the laws of thermodynamics, dear. Now run along like a nice docile breeding unit and get a degree in darning, or whatever it is you do to socks.'' It will be nice when we stop worrying about the percentages, and ask ourselves if the actual percentages might not reflect something about human nature. The goal isn't 50-50 in everything, be it nursing or structural engineering. It's making sure we all have the tools and freedom to pursue our interests. Full disclosure: Your author works from home, usually in the company of his 4-year-old daughter. He has spent much time teaching her how to use the computer for solving math problems, which she does with great pleasure. Wearing a tiara and a feather boa. > James Lileks is a Newhouse News Service columnist. His column appears occasionally.