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Pastimes : Let's Talk About Our Feelings!!! -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: epicure who wrote (94308)	1/21/2005 6:15:29 PM
From: one_less	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 108807

"You and Buschman are told to get a room by Redfish. Grainne and I are told to get a room by you, and ALL it really means is that you agree with Buschman and I agree with Grainne." This is a fairly accurate statement. I posted the comment about rooms to draw Grainne's attention to that fact ... She, of course, doesn't get it. She has her perspective, which she identifies as 'liberal'. Fine and dandy. She latches on to anything seemingly liberal or anti-conservative and owns it. That's fine too. To me it seems shallow and lacking in authenticity, JMO. I like to challenge people that do that on both sides of the political spectrum. This occasionally opens up a topic and I consider that a learning opportunity. You don't like it (puddle splashing)... tough for you. "If you were able to be the zealous seeker for truth you obviously think you are, you would notice that you get very strange when talking to some people, but are as sycophantic as the very best sycophant when talking to others." I notice that my posts are provocative in the manner I described above ... I find it odd that grainne or you aren't perceptive enough to notice or choose not to notice that it is deliberate. I also find it odd that attempts to provoke thought on a discussion thread where grainne has promoted the idea of discussion over opposing ideas is viewed as 'attacks'. "You, however, seem to see affinities between posters as some sort of travesty of justice, except when it crops up in your own behavior, of course...Now what's the word for that? Hmmm I know I saw it here recently. It begins with an "H". Would you care to point out where I have banned anyone from moderated threads I have posted? Would you care to point out where I have advocated for the removal of a poster who challenges my positions? Would you care to point out where I have hinted that other posters ideas should be ignored? Would you care to point out where I have ignored anyone else's point of view that doesn't validate my own? C'mon now... you have seen me posting for several years.... you can't. Our conduct is not the same. Yes there are people who I tend to agree more with. I sometimes agree with your comments that are anti-conservative. More often I don't, since there is a fundamental difference between us regarding the purposes, meaningfulness, and phenomenon of life ... not to hard to figure that, but that arena is where I am most likely to find opportunities to grow and become even better and sweeter than I already am. "You, however, seem to see affinities between posters as some sort of travesty of justice, except when it crops up in your own behavior, Not true. I see affinities between posters as food for thought since there is usually some merit in each perspective of opposing ideas. So, I challenge/provoke people to look at topics from more than one perspective or on a less shallow basis ... that's when you go to ignore and start carrying on nasty little third party retorts. "...when it crops up in your own behavior, " What behavior ma'am? My issues here are matters of integrity. The honest thing for grainne to do would be to declare this thread anti-conservative view point and herself as the anti-cop. To insist that she is being fair as a moderator is dishonest. She has not been. She has bolstered view points and admonished the anti-view point people on fraudulent terms. She has every right to do that as she pleases. But until she comes clean, and even after that I will continue to point out her offenses. My behavior has been confrontational on the basis of that complaint ... right? Don't know how you can imagine that I am not self aware of such an intentional and concerted effort. You want to have topical discussions, do so. ... You want to play nasty little games where you cue people who are having discussions with me, do so. I will continue to breath either way. ...you get very strange when talking to some people, but are as sycophantic as the very best sycophant when talking to others. But I would never put it that way. Just did. The level of personal dishonesty in your posts is enormous. ... (grainne likes to call it civil, whatever). ... I find that highly offensive, but I want you to feel free to continuing being your self of course. What do I prefere.... a peace truce. My terms ... you and grainne be honest about the treatment of posters on this thread. Starting with the ban list. No one is on that ban list as a matter of grainne's generosity. If she wants to be honest take them off the ban list and provide a sincere request for them to return on good terms. She can always re-ban anyone who offends her and no one is being forced to return.... or declare her preference to keep them on the ban list because that is where she likes to see them, and ban others that she doesn't like and declare her honest dislike of some types of people, instead of this pretense of admonishing the naughties and encouraging the nicies.