To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (156796 ) 1/22/2005 4:13:05 PM From: marcos Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 281500 Canada and the US are not based in exclusivism, we do not keep our indigenous fenced in, but rather encourage their full participation in society, we have no wish to make ghettos for indigenous or anyone else, not least because of our aversion to the inevitable result, that doing so would wall us up in a ghetto of our own There was once invasion and theft here on a massive scale, yes, but not for a long time now ... Chivington wouldn't get away with the Sand Creek massacre now, he wouldn't have gotten away with it in 1948 either, even in Herzl's heyday it would have been dicey ... fashions change, such is life ... on our road here there is a jew who enjoys all the rights i do, though he was born and raised in the US, as he went through the immigration process, which in our case discourages the use of tanks and machine guns, and after a few years he got his papelito verifying his full and complete canuckhood, married a german girl whose father was a soldier in the Wehrmacht, she and my maya wife put on a big spread of japanese food for a dinner party over the holidays, this guy would not find your epithet of 'multi-culti' in the least pejorative Jews had the right to immigrate to Palestine long ago, since the sultan invited them in the sixteenth century, and many did ... immigration was not a new idea introduced by zionism, what was new was the systematic push to exclude the natives, a policy made starkly plain by the israeli 'law of return', which gives foreigners rights over native arabs ... you will have seen Carl's post on this last night - Message 20973484 'all this misses the rather salient point that Israel exists ' The soviet empire was a fait accompli for a while, it passed away though, and is widely recognised as a bad idea .... you will have seen maps of the arab nations, and you'll have noticed how Israel cuts off all land access from one half of them to the other, chances are the arabs have noticed this too ... zionists would have done better to have engineers pick their project location, rather than theologians