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To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (156836)	1/23/2005 6:03:19 PM
From: marcos	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

The context is that zionists crossed the sea to take palestinian land, which they occupy to this day All follows from that original injustice, and anything more said about it is detail, in your case detail that attempts to justify the injustice, distract from its most conspicuous presence, or outright make stuff up like this 'land without a people' rubbish .... 'the arabs invaded' my arse, please to note that these events take place in Palestine not Europe Even to isolate that one little period of time for your own convenience, following announcement of partition the first military scale operation was led by Moshe Dayan on some village, while Irgun and Stern gang operations were being stepped up to the point where the brits could keep no order at all, this before even the arab guerrillas got organised and started, much less the armies of the arab nations who didn't start till months later ... and who even then never left in any significant force the areas of partition allocated to natives under the plan - the overwhelming majority of both arab and jewish casualties were inflicted on that native portion That the civilian population fled from hostilities is not just cause for robbing them - zionists got a free pass on this in 1948 due to fresh news of what had happened during the war, compounded by the fact that western media had little contact or shared language with the natives ... neither is the case now I'll have a lot less time for this after today, it's pointless anyway as you just keep repeating the same old guff ad nauseam ... but it's been a slice, quite instructive as to the mindset perpetuating the dispute over this little corner of the planet .... there is a way to begin on the road to improvement, imho - take the whackismo out of the Whackenstaat, stop emulating the saudis and start recognising that exclusivist tribalism is a dead end full of problems, begin to pay the tiniest bit of lip service to justice and the equality of man, and open your mind to the possibility that not all fault resides with the Other ... or, in your case bright girl, admit that you know this clearly already .... but naah, fat chance, yeah i know .... cheers