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To: ravenseye who wrote (2496)	1/25/2005 1:46:56 AM
From: olivier asser	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 5425

Wasn't pluvia on the tape the defense used I think 12/20/04 - I wonder what his fate will be. Yep, here it is: In one audio tape played for jurors, Elgindy and another short-seller named Steve Pluvia can be heard telling the SEC about a company called EConnect. 12-20-04 10:00 PM EST (Updates with additional testimony in seventh and eighth paragraphs.) By Carol S. Remond Of DOW JONES NEWSWIRES NEW YORK (Dow Jones)--The Securities and Exchange Commission was investigating short-seller Anthony Elgindy in the summer of 2001, SEC Lawyer Robert Long testified in court Monday. Elgindy and former Federal Bureau of Investigations Special Agent Jeffrey Royer are standing trial in U.S. District Court for the Eastern District of New York. They, and three others to be tried separately, are charged with securities fraud, market manipulation and extortion. The government alleges that Elgindy used a private investing Web site to share and trade on confidential information he obtained from Royer. Elgindy and Royer were charged in May 2002, following an FBI investigation that began as a probe into trading activities following the Sept. 11, 2001 terrorist attacks on the U.S. It is unclear whether the previously unknown SEC investigation into Elgindy related to any of the charges he currently faces in Brooklyn. SEC lawyer Long was called to testify by Elgindy's defense Monday. Defense lawyers are attempting to demonstrate to jurors that Elgindy and others had numerous contacts with SEC and other law enforcement personnel and that they have may gleaned confidential information from these contacts. Long testified that in early 2001, he was contacted by Royer, who told him he had a source, who later turned out to be Elgindy, with good information about a company called Genesis Intermedia, which traded under the ticker symbol GENI. Long said he talked to Elgindy, who shared information about the company and some of its insiders with him. Under cross-examination by Assistant U.S. Attorney Kenneth Breen, Long said he learned of an SEC investigation into Elgindy in the summer of 2001 while talking to another SEC lawyer. Long said the SEC lawyer told him Elgindy was of " questionable character" and as a result, he searched Elgindy's name in the SEC database. Elgindy's lawyer, Barry Berke, objected to Long's statement, and federal Judge Raymond Dearie ordered the clerk of the court to strike Long's comment from the record. Also testifying for the defense Monday was SEC lawyer Roberto Tercero who told jurors that Elgindy contacted him with information about two companies. In one audio tape played for jurors, Elgindy and another short-seller named Steve Pluvia can be heard telling the SEC about a company called EConnect. Asked by Elgindy's lawyer Berke whether Elgindy contributed to a later SEC inquiry into the company, Tercero said that the information passed along by the short-seller was a starting point to consider whether or not to take a closer look at the company. Tercero stressed the SEC conducted its own investigation and only after that began an investigation into the company. FBI special agent Michael Gaeta also testified for the defense Monday. Gaeta, an agent assigned to look into organized crimes, said he was contacted by Elgindy in 1996 with information about a company called Quigley. Gaeta said he signed up Elgindy as a confidential informant but that he released him just five days later because Elgindy wasn't a reliable informant. Earlier Monday, prosecutors and defense lawyers argued over whether to admit in evidence the fact that another FBI agent had told Gaeta that Elgindy was a liar. Meanwhile, Elgindy's defense team appears to have given up its efforts to subpoena Bloomberg reporter David Evans. Elgindy had tried to compel Evans to testify about a call the reporter made to the short-seller shortly before his arrest on May 21, 2002. Apparently, Evans had learned that Royer had been arrested and called to ask Elgindy whether the FBI was at his office. Lawyers for Bloomberg and Evans last week argued in front of Judge Dearie that the reporter should not be forced to testify. Elgindy's lawyers appeared to think that statements made during the conversation between Elgindy and Evans could help explain why Elgindy told an FBI agent, shortly after his arrest, that he didn't give money to Middle Eastern charities. Early testimony in the case shows that the FBI was investigating Elgindy's contribution to Mercy International. According to news reports, the now defunct Mercy International was used to funnel money to terror organization Al-Qaida in the past.

To: ravenseye who wrote (2496)	1/25/2005 2:24:30 AM
From: Bill Ulrich	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 5425

The bulk of ECNC research that Pluvia and Elgindy did was in March of 2000. The tape of Pluvia and Elgindy to the SEC agent is probably from around that time period. Although Elgindy and Royer met at the end of 1999, it wasn't until November 2000 that the money transfers started occuring. see: Message 20683470 (From the link, Cleveland and Royer apparently had their own thing going on well before that, even) The relationship between Pluvia and Elgindy started going south around May 2000 and continued to go south throughout October of that year. Doesn't look like much of anything to connect Pluvia's "fate" with regards to today's events. "Wasn't pluvia on the tape the defense used I think 12/20/04 - I wonder what his fate will be. lmao"

To: ravenseye who wrote (2496)	1/25/2005 7:19:29 AM
From: hedgefundman	Respond to of 5425

where da smart sheeple? what's a smart sheeple? the zzzzzz quiet ones who don't wish to sleep with the fishies? you make great posts about evans, but nobody says nuttin' about goldflicker and his odd job associates. goldflicker been silent pro'lly on 'vice of council, or is that counsel, or both? the associates were all over each pick, mebbe furtherin' the scheme and trying to scare everyone into a sellin', create some sellin' volume as his friend (gold) flicker would say goldie, doin' the dance, claimin' right all the time, and then the story would corn veeeeeeeen iently appear in an evans story apologeez to the choich lady, but corn veeeeeen ient 'tis just like the many pluvia posters claimin' corn veeeeeen iently that "t'aint me. don't wanna taint me." keepin' up the reputation was what did and will do them in. EVERY CALL RIGHT 100 PERCENTAGE OF THE TIME, the sheeple would claim and rejoice like with FBI cards on foreheads and posteriors in Vegas. To: Larry Brew who wrote (8273) 10/13/1998 1:37:00 PM From: Anthony@Pacific Read Replies (2) of 10786 In the last 5 years I have taken well over 325 short positions and have lost on NONE of them...I do my research and spend my money in backing up what I say...that is something that few long position hoilders ever do they seem to be satiosfied with rumors, hype and holding each others hands when the shit hits the fan.. Truly amazing.. How manhy of you do-do brains have even been to the company and looked through the recievables and know what the cash burn rate is... anbd how many of you follow the offshore activity...you can sit there and berate me for giving you info that might saver you a few bucks but the truth is you all have no idea what you are talking about on October 16 this stock is going to get hammered like a nail..You heard it here. Message 6001329